Review of Air France flight Toulouse Paris in Economy

Airline Air France
Flight AF7517
Class Economy
Seat 26A
Aircraft Airbus A220-300
Flight time 01:25
Take-off 30 Sep 22, 09:20
Arrival at 30 Sep 22, 10:45
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scorph
By GOLD 371
Published on 5th February 2023

Hello and welcome on board this new report ! Like other Fristes who have already published their story (mainly on the french counterpart of the website), I had the chance, on this first weekend of October 2022, to participate in the Flight-report Gold 22 dinner on the banks of the Vistula.


introduction


For my second attendance to this diner, direction Warsaw! That's pretty good has I've never been in Poland.

To get there from Toulouse is not the easiest thing. No direct flights between Toulouse and Poland this summer (we had to wait for the opening of Krakow this winter by Ryanair). There was a time when Ryanair offered direct flights to Modlin (Translation of Stansted/Bergamo or Beauvais in Polish) but this link was closed long before the arrival of the Covid.

It will therefore be a flight with a mandatory stopover, which forces me to take a day off, 3 solutions are approximately in the same price range, Lufthansa with a mandatory night at MUC on the return and a TLS-FRA-WAW-MUC-TLS routing could be fun but service is really poor on economy. KLM with a one-night stopover at AMS and a very late return on Sunday.

And my choice, with AF correct departure times even if the return is a little early on Sunday and the prices a bit more expensive. In the end I would even pay a little less thanks to my AF "Weekend" card bought on sale (25€) it's really a bargain when you fly in Europe / domestic and you are nobody at Flyingblue FF program. The icing on the cake, my av-geek side will be satisfied with 2 scheduled flights aboard the new Airbus A220-300, an aircraft that I had never take since it entered into service.

Which gives us the following routing:


Routing

  • AF7517 - Economy - Toulouse => Paris CDG - Airbus A220-300 You are here
  • AF1346 - Economy - Paris CDG => Varsovie - Airbus A320 Not available
  • AF1147 - Economy - Varsovie => Paris CDG - Airbus A220-300 Coming soon
  • AF7524 - Economy - Paris CDG => Toulouse - Airbus A321 Not available

The line between Toulouse and Paris is one of the busiest route in the world in terms of the number of passengers transported (a little less than 3 million before covid) even if a large part of the traffic passes through the south of the capital and the Orly airport. Air France's HUB, Paris CDG nevertheless picks up around a quarter of the passengers arriving in the capital, and unsurprisingly a good number of them, like me, are on a connection with the Air France that day.

Until this summer Easyjet operated almost a daily flight between Toulouse and Paris CDG, this is no longer the case during this winter season… AF the single airline on the line offering up to 8 flights per day, a number which has increased these last months. We will also note the use of smaller modules, the usual A321 being very often replaced by Airbus A318/319 or their A220 successors for the winter season, you can also have Erj-190 from HOP!

In terms of reports, even the english part of the website is well supplied with no less than 6 stories mostly on Easyjet (just to let you know there is 49 reports in french ^^), however, surprisingly, this will be the first ever report (in english) onboard Air France new Airbus A220!


Morning mistake


As usual I take good margins before my departures, this saved my trip. Indeed it is only a few minutes before arriving at the airport that I realize that contrary to what I was thinking the flight leaves at 9:20 a.m. not at 10:20 a.m.! Fortunately, it's only 8:30 a.m. when I get off  the bus.


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Entrance via the arrivals level where many people are waiting for arriving passengers.

I go up to the departures level, there are a lot of people at the AF counters! I will not drop off my luggage for this short journey.


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I timed the security check crossing 4 min announced on the screens, I will take 5 minutes with staff once again friendly and smiling. The area is well organised, apart from the T1B in Lyon, I do not see a large French airport that is better organized for these controls.


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The display indicating the flight schedule not bad for a Friday morning.


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Quick crossing through the Duty-free zone with the usual sales of perfumes, alcohol and cigarettes as well as some more local products.


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 In the mall all the shops are open today not so obvious during the last two years.


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A large number of passengers are also waiting in the hall C and i would also meet the wife of one of my former colleagues leaving for London.


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Toulouse airport has large bay windows that allow you to photograph the traffic but also the Airbus factories, where you can see the Beluga group based in Blagnac


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The aircraft being finished are mainly intended for Asian customers, whether Cathay Pacific, China Airlines, China Eastern or the more confidential Taiwanese Starlux. But also Western customers with Airbus A350s for Air France and Delta or A330s for Virgin and the French Air Force.


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There are also prototypes aircrafts like this Airbus A321neo performing some touch and go for a test flight.


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On the passenger side of the airport, we find this very eurowhite Air Nostrum Crj-1000 which ensures the morning flight to Madrid.


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On the Hall D I can have a look to my aircraft which is already arrived from Paris CDG.


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Passing in front of this AF Airbus A320 who will reach Orly.


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Alright, enough hanging around i take the direction of Concourse D where my flight is schedule to board.


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When I arrive inside the Hall D, boarding of my flight is almost complited.


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I try to take a good picture of my plane of the day but not very easy from that place, let me still give you its pedigree. As you may have noticed, it is an Airbus A220-300 registered F-HZUG, it was delivered less than a year ago to AF and was named "Provins".


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By the window I can see this Easyjet Airbus A320 with the "Faro" sticker taking off for a return to it's base in Nantes.


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Boarding in progress


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I use the Air France app for the boarding pass.


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Boarding via the jetbridge but with dirty windows.


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Fuselage shoot 


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ON Board the New Air france Airbus A220


And here I am for the first time on board an A220. There is an elegant cabin that smells like new. I must admit that AF offers much nicer seats than what we find at LH for example.


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The luggage racks are almost all full mainly due to the fact that the passengers do not store the trolleys on the side and pile up jackets and coats. I return to my seat in row 26 at the window on the duo side. Casually, this duo configuration is a real gain in comfort compared to the 3x3 found on the overwhelming majority of medium-haul aircraft


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The pitch is not so bad and there is a lot of equipments on the back of the seat such as a coat hook, an USB socket and also a small new feature in AF cabins, a support for a tablet/smartphone.


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Another good feature of this new aircraft is the windows size they are HUGE! The plane next to us is an Airbus A321 of Air France coming from Paris


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Boarding continues and we will be about ten minutes late because of two passengers who did not show up for boarding but who had checked some luggage that had to be unloaded. If we exclude these missing passengers, the flight is full.


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Detail on the ceiling light, no screen as you can have at Swiss but a fixed smoking indication and 2 signals, the usual for belts, the other to indicate if the wifi is working.


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Push back and engines start making a kind of rather strange metallic squeak when starting and during changes in power regime. During  this time the crew provides safety instructions.


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Then we begin our taxiing for a departure on runway 32. We will overtake this AF Airbus A320 by the taxiway on the right until it finishes is pushing back.


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We are passing in front of the cargo appron where we find the usual visitors, the Boeing 767F of the Danish Star Air operating the flight to Lyon and Koln cargo hub and just behind it the DHL B757F connecting it to its Hub in Leipzig.


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Another aircraft parked at the freighter and unusual visitor is this very exclusive Airbus A319neo ACJ belonging to a private jet company based in Switzerland.


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After this few minutes journey around Toulouse airport (one of the longest that you can have on the Toulouse platform) it's time for take off!


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No waiting to be lined up, but we will have to wait for this Airbus A321neo test aircraft to land on the parallel runway before starting our flight.


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The engines are pushed to take-off thrust with a rather particular metallic noise when revving up, then once the power is reached, it seems that the aircraft takes off very quietly and silently. Here we are in the air with a nice glimpse of the Airbus factories and the A321neo seen previously which has finished decelerating on the parallel runway.


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Straight to the grey clouds !


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Fortunately the cloud layer, although a little gray, is really not thick and we quickly find a magnificent blue sky once our initial climb has been completed.


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Small detail on the beautiful winglet adorned with Air Orient's historic winged seahorse nickname "The Shrimp". For me this logo is one of the most iconic of the airlines industry.


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In the cabin, although the flight is full, the atmosphere is calm, we can see that the mood-light installed on this recent aircraft. The wifi will be functional on this flight as well as the sockets, the free internet message pass is always appreciated. A large selection of newspapers and magazine is also available via AF-press app for free.


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It's the world upside down, the further north you go, the clearer the sky we get !


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Until the clouds disappeared almost completely during the crossing of Dordogne which I think we can see Bergerac in the distance.


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Then Périgueux city is playing hide and seek with a cloud bank,


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While I try to follow the route through the window, the snack service is offered, it will be coffee and Breton cookie, acceptable for a morning domestic flight.


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The cloud production plant below leads me to think that we are coming close to the Loire with a high probability that this is the Chinon nuclear power plant. We see that national security is assured, Google Maps blurring or low cloud layer the plant will remain hidden ^^.


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 Our beginning of descent is announced above the great cereal plains of Orleans.


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 The route following flightradar24, with a cruising altitude of 30,000ft. Usual routing for this kind of flight.


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We are approaching Ile de France region from the North-East with the Seine river which we joining at the height of Poissy. Under our wings passes the forest of Saint-Germain.


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We continue our flight over the meanders of the Seine bypassing Paris to the north on the border between the Hauts-de Seine district and the Val d'Oise district we find the Port of Gennevilliers on one side and Argenteuil on the other.


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 A few moments later we change again of district with, this time, the Seine-Saint-Denis, the city and the island of the same name.


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A few seconds later, (much faster than on the RER B) we turn around the runways of Le Bourget business airport. You can guess the shape of the Airbus A380 MSN4 which joined the collections of the Air and Space Museum in Le Bourget in 2017.


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Our destination is in sight! We passing by the South the immense airport zone of CDG.


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 Well we are arriving in Meaux, it would be good if we didn't take too long to turn around to reach the CDG runways, wouldn't we?


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 And this will be the case a few minutes later once the city of Meaux behind us, we will note the small banks of fog persisting above the meanders of the Marne river.


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Final approach will take place on the South doublet, the landing as well as the braking will be very smooth on runway 26L.


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We quickly leave the runway and crossing the 26R without any hold.


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 I see in the distance the double Fox Concorde, the most beautiful of birds, which has become the most beautiful of flowerpots.


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Air France headquaters


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This Boeing 777 will let us the right hand priority 


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Last turn before joining our parking stand


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The jetbridge will be quickly connected to our plane and ground operations begin quickly. General overview of the cabin equipped with large luggage compartments yet barely sufficient to accommodate the numerous cabin luggage of some passengers (some of whom were above the authorized number or dimensions). Large luggages racks that only leave a small head space and I would see 2 people banging their heads quite violently.

I would descend among the last with polite greetings from the gate crew.


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The "small" nose of our elegant bird


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Then I reach the terminal using the impressive and numerous glass walkways that bristle the T2F, this will also allow me a last view of my first A220, bye bye Uniform Golf I feel that we are going to see each other again (and faster than I thought ^^)


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I go up the glass corridors of terminal 2F in order to go up one level to make my connection with my next flight to WAW which will also leave from 2F, so a very simple connection. To be fair, it's simply the first time I've been in transit at CDG!


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 So let's take a look at the different screens that display the connections in order to know the status of my next flight.


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Here is the end of this report i will try to translate the first leg of the return flight also operted on the A220. Hope to see you soon !

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Verdict

Air France

7.4/10
Cabin8.5
Cabin crew6.5
Entertainment/wifi8.0
Meal/catering6.5

Toulouse - TLS

7.6/10
Efficiency8.0
Access7.5
Services8.0
Cleanliness7.0

Paris - CDG

6.4/10
Efficiency6.5
Access6.5
Services5.5
Cleanliness7.0

Conclusion

A nice little discovery that this Airbus A220 from AF, even if in the french columns of this site we deplored the absence of galley equipments (ovens for passengers meals) no small screens like Swiss... the least we can say is that, on this type of domestic flight, the gain in comfort is not negligeable. Particularly if we compare with the Airbus A318/321 with metropolitan cabins often deployed on this line by AF.

Air France:
+ The A220 allows a good ride in comfort on this line with a rather good hard product and excellent silence on board during the flight.
+ Entertainment, probably the best offer in Europe if you add the free message pass + flight tracking via wifi + the AF press app. If we add the large window of the A220 is perfect weather the service is almost perfect!
Crew who did the essential no complaints whether good or bad

Toulouse:
+ Less than 5 minutes to pass the PIF, regular traveler I very rarely take more than 10 minutes to pass the obstacle of the security check, often with charming agents.

Paris CDG 2F:
+ Easy connections when you arrive and when you leave from T2F
- Many shops closed due to works and a 2F terminal, although architecturally very successful (the building is superb) but not at all adapted to the traffic it receives.

Information on the route Toulouse (TLS) Paris (CDG)

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5 Comments

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  • Comment 620615 by
    Pilpintu TEAM 997 Comments
    Hello, Scorph!

    There is an elegant cabin that smells like new.

    That cabin looks fantastic, modern and comfortable! As for LH, I am shocked by what I have seen and read about them in different reports.

    Another good feature of this new aircraft is the windows size they are HUGE!

    No intention to question Airbus engineers, but I can't help wondering why on earth did they design such small windows for the A320 family? And neck-wreckingly low as well!

    Small detail on the beautiful winglet

    Oh! I had no idea that the Air France logo was a winged seahorse until I saw it here!

    two passengers who did not show up for boarding but who had checked some luggage

    Now that's scary!

    we can see Bergerac in the distance.

    Wonderful aerials, usually among my favorite photos in any report!

    Thanks for sharing this great experience onboard the A220!
    • Comment 620641 by
      scorph GOLD AUTHOR 2132 Comments
      Hi Pilpintu, thanks for your comment and glad that you have enjoyed this report !

      And neck-wreckingly low as well!

      You have never try the Sukhoi Superjet, windows are incredibly low ! I'm not so tall so never complained about the height of A320 windows but it's shocking when you take an A320 after a flight on A220 the window size looks ridiculous.

      Oh! I had no idea that the Air France logo was a winged seahorse until I saw it here!

      It's a mix between the mythologic Pegasus and the seahorse, due to the fact that during the 30's most of the plane used by Air orient / Air France were floatplane ... for me this logo is a real heritage and TBH I totally dislike the red "comma" currently used by AF

      Have nice flights !
  • Comment 620722 by
    KévinDC TEAM SILVER 6775 Comments
    Very nice report! The AF A220 is beautiful inside and out. Yes, it would have been nice to have the little overhead screens, but it's not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things. As you mention, on short-haul this is a very comfortable aircraft. The spacious 2-3 configuration and the widest seats in Economy of any aircraft in the AF fleet (since the demise of the A380, RIP ?), make for a nice upgrade in comfort from the usual Airbus narrowbodies on domestic routes, especially those with the Metropole cabins with the ironing board seats.

    Toulouse airport has large bay windows that allow you to photograph the traffic but also the Airbus factories, where you can see the Beluga group based in Blagnac

    Gorgeous shots! I never carry my DSLR around with me anymore because it got to be too cumbersome now that I have a kid, and I always regret not having that zoom ability to get better shots of Airbus across the way from the terminal whenever I fly in/out of TLS.

    Thanks for sharing!
    • Comment 620860 by
      scorph GOLD AUTHOR 2132 Comments
      Hi Kevin and thanks for the comment
      widest seats in Economy of any aircraft in the AF fleet (since the demise of the A380

      I think the A330 are now the widest available in AF Y ?
      Gorgeous shots! I never carry my DSLR around with me anymore because it got to be too cumbersome

      I bought a hybrid canon camera this summer, very light does not take to much place and the quality of the picture is really good

      See you !
      • Comment 620863 by
        KévinDC TEAM SILVER 6775 Comments
        I think the A330 are now the widest available in AF Y ?

        Nope, A220s have 18.9 inch wide seats while 332 has 17.8-18.2 inch wide seats depending on where they are in the cabin (narrower towards rear usually). So yeah, little A220 has better seat space than all long haul if taking into account seat width and not just seat pitch.

        I bought a hybrid canon camera this summer, very light does not take to much place and the quality of the picture is really good

        Oh nice! Thanks for the tip. I'll have to look into that.

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