Review of Air France flight from Los Angeles to Paris in Economy

AFR

AF - Air France

Flight taken on 26 January 2014
AF77
21:15 10h 45m 17:00
Class Economy
Seat 23A
anthonytahiti
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Hello !
We live in Tahiti, French Polynesia, and we fly to France 1 or 2 times a year, with Air France via LAX. I’m tired to always fly with the same companie, the same plane, always transiting in LAX.
Here are the Flight Reports of my first round-the-world trip, with my family (2 adults and 1 child 3 years old), in Economy class.
Routing is PPT – LAX – CDG – TLS – FRA – SIN – AKL – PPT
Companies will be Air France, Lufthansa Cityline, Singapore Airlines and Air Tahiti Nui

    1ST PART : From Tahiti to France : I did it my way Papeete [PPT] - Los Angeles [LAX], Air France AF77, B772, Economy, January 26, 2014 CLICK HERE Los Angeles [LAX] - Paris [CDG], Air France AF77, B772, Economy, January 26, 2014
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    Paris [CDG] - Toulouse [TLS], Air France AF7788, A320, Economy, January 27, 2014 CLICK HERE 2ND PART : Going East : New Horizons Toulouse [TLS] - Frankfurt [FRA], Lufthansa Cityline LH1099, CR7, Economy, February 17, 2014 CLICK HERE Frankfurt [FRA] - Singapore [SIN], Singapore Airlines SQ325, B77W, Economy, February 17, 2014 CLICK HERE 3RD PART : Back to Tahiti : Full Circle Singapore [SIN] - Auckland [AKL], Singapore Airlines SQ285, B77W, Economy, February 22, 2014 CLICK HERE Auckland [AKL] - Papeete [PPT], Air Tahiti Nui TN102, A343, Economy, February 23, 2014 CLICK HERE
After arriving on time at LAX and painful first part of transit (50 minutes for US Customs & Borders), we briefly go out on American groung, just to go up one floor


photo FR96 LAX CDG (1)

And it’s not finished yet, we must go through security filters


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It’s crowdy, we must wait downstairs and the agent upstairs on the left, obviously not sporty enough to walk downstairs, orders passengers to open or close the ribbon and going up by small wave and continue to queue a little higher


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1 hour and 30 minutes after landing, we finally airside.


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The flight program shows many flights to AKL with Air New Zealand tonight, and also one delayed flight, guess who? Air Canada did not fail in its unflattering reputation in the field on Flight Report


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We have few minutes to spent in Air France Lounge


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Lounge is still unpleasant (I visit it almost each time I transit in LAX)


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Fortunately there are some attractions outside :
The NZ Hobbit plane (B77W)


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And also the NZ All Black plane (B77W)


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Beautiful show outside


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Boarding starts on time. You could think that there is not so many people, but all the economy pax are waiting offscreen on the left. We go quickly with the SkyPriority lane.


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The boarding pass is always the same, simply adorned with the traditional American control scribbles


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This is the same aircraft B777-200ER (F-GSPD) which performs the whole journey PPT LAX CDG.


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We find the same seats, left side of row 23. It is impossible for us to choose different seats on the 2 sections (ticket PPT CDG considered one only flight), so I did not have the right to choose row 20 (and its generous legroom 20C or 20J ) yet free on LAX CDG at the time of booking


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Living space for the night


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Entertainment will be functional from boarding


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Legroom


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View from my seat


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Through the window, the neighbor Air Canada has finally arrived, a Virgin A346 departing to LHR at the same time (I’d like to fly with them one day, DL marketing) and B77W All Black plane pushed back
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A black airplane at night, not easy to photograph


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Push back at the scheduled departure time.
Taxiing 15 minutes allowing me to see that it is much easier to photograph a white aircraft at night


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Take off to the Pacific


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U-turn and a view to the runways of LAX


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Let’s go


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The flight duration is particularly short this time, arriving well in advance


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Distribution of menus


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Our route seems to be moving further south than usual


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My entertainment of the early flight will be a very good movie : “the buttler”


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Service begins quickly after takeoff. Champagne, Heidsieck & Co. Monopole


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Distribution of childmeal tray


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Main dish was good


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Then the meal of the day, with a choice of beef Parmentier for me


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Starter : vegetable salad lack of seasoning, I have not found vinaigrette on the tray


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Beef Parmentier was good, even very good


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Dessert : Tiramisu was too dry, what a pity.


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After that, it is time to sleep, the kid will sleep well without moving too much, and I find myself spending a pretty good night without long awakenings, and I finally awake 1 hour 30 minutes before landing for snack (we have saved more time in flight with an arrival more in advance)


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Approching European coasts


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Distribution of childmeal snack


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Pancake and applesauce


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And adult tray with a coffee to wake up


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Snack is now a hot service, but that is not so good, full fat as the photo suggests


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It’s daylight at this time, weather is still beautiful at this altitude


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But it’s a cold destination


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The cabin is prepared for landing


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Final approach under the clouds with beautiful light


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Landing with 1 hour ahead


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Taxiing about 5 minutes :
XL Airways A333


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Junction Building 2A - 2C (Terminal 2)


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Terminal 2E, the Kingdom of Air France


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But also:
Japan Airlines B77W


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A343 Mauritius


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And Skyteam livery (AF B77W) to finish


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We are at our parking stand at Satellite 3 (Terminal 2E gates L)


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No more long haul with AF for this trip


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Disembarking, personal message for PPT passengers like me


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Last look to this bird which has flown a long way


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Terminal 2E-2F junction is almost deserted, very fast pass through security checks and immigration is especially nice (thanks to our early arrival it seems)
A few days later, AF seeks my opinion on this flight AF77, which is the same as in this report : good flight unsurprisingly, with bad point for restrictions for passengers from PPT on this line.


photo FR96 LAX CDG (63)

One last flight , it is not finished …

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Product ratings

Airline

Air France 7.5

  • Cabin7.5 / 10
  • Cabin crew7.5 / 10
  • Entertainment/wifi7.5 / 10
  • Meal/catering7.5 / 10
Lounge

Air France KLM Lounge5.8

  • Comfort4.0 / 10
  • Meal/catering4.0 / 10
  • Entertainment/wifi7.0 / 10
  • Services8.0 / 10
Departure airport

Los Angeles - LAX3.0

  • Efficiency0.0 / 10
  • Access5.0 / 10
  • Services2.0 / 10
  • Cleanliness5.0 / 10
Arrival Airport

Paris - CDG8.5

  • Efficiency10.0 / 10
  • Access8.0 / 10
  • Services8.0 / 10
  • Cleanliness8.0 / 10

Conclusion

Air France
Comfort is finally a good surprise, I had a better trip than usual. I could sleep for several hours and I was surprised to say already ? when I woke up for snack.
Catering was better than the first leg despite a disappointing dessert on the first service.
Good In-Flight Entertainment, but the screen is too small.

Air France KLM Lounge, terminal 2
Ugly lounge, limited place when two planes at the same time. Providing correct press, free wifi. Staff is the only good point about this lounge, always friendly and welcoming.
Catering : supply remains limited despite improvements for 1 year, with sandwiches

LAX Terminal 2
Following the transit was just as painful as the first part, waiting long enough for security controls. The final 1hour and 30 minutes between the landing of the first flight and the arrival in the boarding area is really too long. Terminal still ugly and unpleasant .

CDG Terminal 2E
A pleasant surprise with a very fast track of different checkpoints, passport and security, and even a smiling police officer. The transit was fast and 2E -2F connection is now well made.

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Comments (5)

  • Thank you for sharing this nice report on a West Coast-CDG route. Catering seems OK for this route and at least the 2nd meal (breakfast) is more generous than what is offered on the JFK-CDG.

    The AF lounge at LAX is really disappointing and I've heard it is one of the worst in the system. I was not very impressed when I was there last year. Fortunately it was not very full when I visited but I can imagine how uncomfortable it must be when it is at capacity.

    • I can't refuse to comment on a good report. ;) Thanks.

      So if I understand correctly, at TBIT you have two lounges that you can use - KE Skyteam and another one named LAXSUL?

      Here is the link from the Skyteam website:

      http://www.skyteam.com/en/Why-SkyTeam/SkyTeam-Lounges/Lounge-Finder/Skyteam-lounges-in-Los-Angeles-Los-Angeles-International-Airport/

      I've heard that AF uses TBIT for their A380's and anything else leaves out of T2, so it makes sense to have all flights depart from the intl. terminal.

    • Thank you, it´s a pleasure to find you here as a commentator.

      Economy catering has been improved for the second service on the longest flights with a hot meal.

      This lounge in terminal 2 was awful, but it´s over now. From march 31, AF moves all his flights including AF77 and AF76 between PPT and CDG to TBIT.

    • I've heard that AF will use the KE/Skyteam lounge, not a self owned lounge. Never heard about the LAXSUL International Lounge, I will see next month perhaps ;)

      Yes AF uses TBIT for A380 and T2 for other flight (777). From march 31 all flights operate from TBIT

    • The seat is narrow, 17 with the 10 in-a-row configuration (3-4-3). That´s why I was really surprised to sleep well !

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