Review of Malaysia Airlines flight Singapore Kuala Lumpur in Economy

Airline Malaysia Airlines
Flight MH602
Class Economy
Seat 23F
Aircraft Boeing 737-800
Flight time 01:00
Take-off 09 May 14, 06:40
Arrival at 09 May 14, 07:40
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By 13360
Published on 10th May 2014
Good day friends! Welcome to this series of flight reports, which includes four flights: SIN-KUL-TPE-KUL-SIN. This time, I will be travelling on Malaysia Airlines (MAS). Follow me and discover how was my journey on-board four MAS B737-800 aircrafts!

This is my rather indirect routing from Singapore to Taipei, and back.

photo 000c Routing

Taiwan Trip in May, 2014
Flight 1: 09/05/2014, SIN-KUL, MH602, B737-800 (This Report)
Flight 2: 09/05/2014, KUL-TPE, MH366, B737-800 (
Flight 3: 24/05/2014, TPE-KUL, MH367, B737-800 (Coming Soon!)
Flight 4: 24/05/2014, KUL-SIN, MH609, B737-800 (Coming Soon!)

My reason for choosing MAS on this trip was extremely simple, and I am sure you can guess it quickly – its extremely competitive pricing! When I was booking the air tickets for this trip, I did a rather extensive research to decide which airline to travel on for the exact same period from 9 May 2014 to 24 May 2014. The candidates included: Jetstar, Scoot, Tiger, EVA Air, China Airlines, Singapore Airlines, Cathay Pacific, and Malaysia Airlines. The various considerations I had in mind were (1) Ticket Pricing, (2) Baggage Allowance, and (3) Mileage Accruals (oneworld or Star Alliance).

I wouldn’t delve too deeply into the decision process, however, being a oneworld member airline that allows a generous 30kg baggage allowance with an extremely worthwhile ticket pricing of SGD467.20 (incl. seats selection fees and taxes), I immediately decided on booking a return trip for myself on MAS and a one-way ticket for my mom. Do note that this particular price was much cheaper than what Jetstar had to offer (air ticket + the plus bundle necessary for Qantas points accrual + 30kg baggage), with such an attractive alternative – who will be able to resist it?

I do agree that the transit time at Kuala Lumpur on my return trip is a little too long, standing at an extremely long duration of 3 hours and 15 minutes! I am wondering if I will be able to keep myself occupied with some photography of planes and the airport for that duration of 3+ hours, we shall see…

photo 000a Banner

My 3rd Flight with Malaysia Airlines – Experiencing the Short Hop from SIN to KUL for the First Time!

This report was completed on 19 May 2014, in Taipei, Taiwan.
Note: All the time stated in this report are UTC+08:00.

Malaysia Airlines MH602
Aircraft Registration: 9M-MSF
Origin: Singapore Changi International Airport (SIN)
Destination: Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KUL)
Date: Friday, 09 May 2014
Boarding Time: 0610h (UTC+08:00)
ETD: 0640h (UTC+08:00)
ATD: 0642h (UTC+08:00)
ETA: 0740h (UTC+08:00)
ATA: 0732h (UTC+08:00)
Estimated Duration: 01:00
Actual Duration: 00:50
Flight Distance: 191 miles / 307 km

0430h (UTC+08:00)
Status: Left Home
01:40 to Boarding Time
02:10 to ETD

Leaving home slightly more than 1.5h to boarding time – sounds crazy isn’t it? No worries! Don’t forget this was a super-duper early morning flight and we will be “flying” through empty highways all the way to Changi Airport on this early Friday morning.

Indeed, about half an hour later at 0500h, after travelling on the expressways at an average speed of around 80km/h, we were there at the airport! Amazing.

Status: Checking In
00:37 from Leaving Home
01:03 to Boarding Time
01:33 to ETD

Malaysia Airlines (MAS) operates from Changi Airport’s Terminal 2. However, I apologise for being unable to fulfil my promise of bringing you through the journey to the staff canteens that I mentioned in my previous reports. (See: First, it was extremely early in the morning; I do not believe that those canteens would be opened. Secondly, I was kind of late for my flight that morning, so we just made do with a simple breakfast before clearing departure formalities.

Here are photos of the relatively crowded check-in counters for MAS flight 602 bound for Kuala Lumpur. From my judgment, many passengers were bound for destinations other than Kuala Lumpur. Instead, they were connecting for other MAS flights from Kuala Lumpur just like us! After all, most people bound for Kuala Lumpur didn’t really have to wake up so early just to arrive before everyone else even started work.

photo 001 Check In Counter 0507h

As you can see, there were only four counters in operation for this short flight covering the SIN-KUL sector. Two were dedicated for economy class passengers, one was for those who completed online check-in, and finally the last one for business class passengers and Enrich / oneworld members. (The counter on the extreme right was not in operation apparently.)

photo 003 Check In Counter IIIphoto 003a Check In Counter IV

I would like to draw your attention to this screen. I believe it reflects very clearly that apart from passengers on business class, Enrich members of a silver tier & above, and oneworld members of a ruby tier & above could also utilise this priority queue.

photo 002 Check In Counter II

As this was the first time I travelled with a oneworld airline (apart from Qantas) after attaining Qantas’ silver status last year, I specifically took the initiative to confirm my eligibility, as a oneworld ruby member, of utilising the priority queue. As it was stated very clearly on oneworld’s website – the answer is yes, I could.

However, shortly after the agent at the counter checked my documents, she used a rather unpleasant tone to inform me that “I should not have queued here, but since I was already there, she would just do the check in for me, but please (in an extremely sarcastic tone) do not do such a thing in future and join the normal queue”.

At that moment, I really thought I made a mistake and thus apologised. However, I was quite unhappy with her attitude because she didn’t allow me to finish my sentence when I tried to clarify about what was displayed on the screen.

Well… Check in was still completed nevertheless. After the journey, I went to double check the status of my membership, my member card and oneworld’s website. After confidently confirming that I did NOT “queue at the wrong line” that day, I sent a feedback letter to MAS reflecting the incident and the overall experience with MAS on the two flights, which were rather disappointing. Up till date as I write this report, there are no replies from MAS yet.

Anyway, it was good that MAS provided “transit information guidance” for passengers transiting at their main hub!

photo 008 Boarding Passes with Transit Information

After we were done with checking in for the flights, my family and I walked around Terminal 2 to search for somewhere to have our breakfast quickly before my mom and I proceed to our gate.

This is the departure information board displayed at the departure hall of Terminal 2. I like it. (Note: in less than 1 hour, two Tiger Air flights were cancelled.)

photo 004 Traditional Departures Information 0506h

We found no suitable place for breakfast on the departure hall level, thus we went downstairs to the arrival hall.

photo 005 Time for Breakfast

No, we didn’t choose McDonald’s.

photo 006 Arrival Hallphoto 007 Arrival Hall II

Instead, we decided on “Coffee & Toast”.

photo 012 What is Thisphoto 011 Kaffe Toast

Breakfast for 4 people – these weren’t exactly cheap in terms of a Singaporean standard.

photo 010 Breakfast 0529hphoto 013 Bread for Breakfast

Status: Clearing Departure Formalities
01:27 from Leaving Home
00:13 to Boarding Time
00:43 to ETD

After a quick breakfast, we proceeded back to the departure halls.

photo 014 Terminal 2 Check-In Countersphoto 015 Departure Hall

What you see here is one of the newest attractions in Singapore – Gardens by the Bay. Personally, I didn’t find the place exceptionally interesting nor attractive, contrary to the claim made by various parties.

photo 016 Poster about Singapore

Changi Airport is really a busy airport – as you can see, a slight queue had formed for passport checks.

photo 017 Departure Passport Checks 0557h

From Terminal 2 alone, ten flights were departing between 6am and 7am that day! Busy airport, indeed.

photo 018 Flight Information 0605h

Status: Proceeding to the Boarding Gate
01:35 from Leaving Home
00:05 to Boarding Time
00:35 to ETD

Something that I am unsure about – I was wondering why boarding time was scheduled just half an hour before departure. Isn’t it the norm for it to be one hour before at Changi Airport? Was it because a narrow-body aircraft operated MH602?

Either way, we headed quickly to gate F51 after visiting the washroom.

photo 019 Heading to F51photo 020 F51 is the Nearest Gate

Akin to Terminal 1, arriving passengers are not separated from departing passengers. Here, you see the arrival immigration counters that I will be using in two weeks’ time.

photo 021 Arrival Immigration

It was a pity I didn’t have much time to look around this terminal that I am rather unfamiliar with.

photo 022 T2 Airside

MAS wasn’t exactly strict about its cabin baggage rules – 2 bags, up to a total of 7kg. These two belong to my mom and I; thus, we actually adhered with the rules.

photo 023 Cabin Bags

Moving on, we proceeded to find the gate. And… Lucky us, F51 is once again the first gate along the corridor.

However, it seemed as though Terminal 2’s corridor was a little bit narrower than that of Terminal 1’s.

photo 024 Here It Is F51

Status: Queuing for Security
01:43 from Leaving Home
00:03 from Boarding Time
00:33 to ETD

Apparently, boarding began way before 0610h, and when I saw two flights sharing a same gate, I immediately realised that we would be boarding via a remote stand that morning. That was my first time doing this at Changi Airport!

The gate was already closing 3 minutes after the boarding time.

photo 025 Flight Information 0613h

My boarding passes for both flights – MH602 SIN-KUL and MH366 KUL-TPE.

photo 009 Boarding Passes for Both Flight Sectors

This extremely long queue for security consists of passengers for two flights; not just MH602, but also another Tiger Air flight bound for Bangkok.

photo 026 Long Queuephoto 027 Queue was Long

Flights between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur operated by MAS, Singapore Airlines and SilkAir are very “aggressively” code-shared with other airlines.

photo 028 Codeshare Flight

With 17 minutes left to the ETD, we finally got pass security.

photo 029 Down to Gate F51 (Remote Stand) 0623h

Down the staircase – queue again for the bus!

photo 030 Queue for Bus 0624h

I seriously thought the flight wouldn’t be able to move off on time. From this photo, you can see that SilkAir also made sure that they had a part to play on MH602.

photo 031 Waiting for the Bus 0626h

There may even be American Airlines passengers on-board MH602!

photo 032 Codeshare with AA

Two minutes later, our bus moved off heading towards our aircraft.

photo 033 On the Bus to Our Aircraft 0628hphoto 034 Setting Off 0628h

Status: Boarding
02:05 after Leaving Home
00:25 after Boarding Time
00:05 to ETD

With 5 minutes left to departure, the bus carrying the last batch of passengers for MH602 (including us) arrived at the aircraft.

photo 035 Arrived at Our Aircraft 0635h

9M-MSF operated MH602 on that early Friday morning after a night’s rest at Changi Airport – explaining why it was parked at a remote stand.

photo 036 The Aircraft 9M-MSF

Status: Boarding Completed
02:11 from Leaving Home
00:01 from ETD

Eventually, the highly efficient operations at Changi Airport made it! The aircraft door was closed just 1 minute after ETD.

9M-MSF was just about 11 months old when I travelled on it. From the moment I boarded, it was very evident that the aircraft is an extremely new one. I strongly believe that this was one of the newest aircrafts that I have travelled on.

photo 037 Final Few Passengers (Window Seat for Me) 0641h

Parked next to 9M-MSF was SilkAir’s 9V-SLM.

photo 038 SilkAir 9VSLM A320 MI566
SilkAir / 9V-SLM / A320-200 / MI566

As I was checking the data, I came across this rather interesting routing for MI566. It seems like this aircraft operated MI566 that day and the route was SIN-CEB-DVO-SIN, all with a same flight number.

photo 036b MI566 Flight Sectors

Status: Push Back
02:12 from Leaving Home
00:02 from ETD

With a mere 2 minutes delay, MH602 pushed back and its engine started. Meanwhile, I tried to stretch my leg to experience how “bad” will a 30-inches seat pitch be.

photo 039 Legroom 30-inches 0642h (Push-Back)

Strictly speaking, it wasn’t that bad.

Status: Take Off
02:21 from Leaving Home
00:09 from ATD

The best thing about boarding from a remote stand at Changi Airport would probably be that it seemed much nearer to the runway. The aircraft took just a short while before it began speeding down the runway, taking off towards Malaysia.

Very quickly, the seatbelt signs were turned off 5 minutes after take off.

photo 040 Climbing 0656h (Take-Off 0651h)photo 041 Still Climbing 0657h

The view of sunrise was pretty nice!

photo 042 Sunrise 0657h

Status: Climbing – Snacks & Drinks Service Commenced
01:59 from Leaving Home
00:17 from ATD
00:41 to ETA

As the actual flying time was just slightly more than half an hour, flight attendants commenced the drinks service very promptly after take off. Peanuts were distributed first and drinks were offered. The process was completed very quickly as most passengers were catching up with their sleep after waking up so early in the morning for the flight.

photo 043 Peanuts for the Short Flight 0659hphoto 047 Drinks Came After That 0703h

I took some time to take pictures of the seat pocket contents.

photo 044 Safety Card Iphoto 045 Safety Card IIphoto 046 Seat Pocket Contents

Personal IFE screens are also available for AVOD on the new B737-800s, but not all aircrafts have them. I prayed hard to be able to travel on those installed with personal IFEs, so far so good!

However, for this extremely short flight, earphones were not provided.

photo 048 Personal IFE

In my opinion, it is also a plus factor to have USB charging points on-board.

photo 048a USB Charging Point

Because of the touch screen function, I didn’t really bother to take out the remote control.

photo 049 Remote Control

Looking at the different parts of the aircraft, it was very clear that 9M-MSF is indeed very new.

photo 089 Very New Aircraft

I also spent something taking pictures of the air show. It was quite comprehensive, but definitely still not as good as Emirates’ air show.

photo 050 Air Show Iphoto 051 Air Show II 0704h

However, altitude was only displayed in terms of metres, instead of alternating between metres and feet. (Isn't this a practice only evident in China? Apparently not, because it was the same on my next flight.)

The direction and distance to Mecca will also be displayed on all MAS flights that have this screen on their air shows.

photo 060 Air Show VIII

We are about halfway through.

photo 061 Air Show IX 0707h

And the cruising altitude was 22,000 feet.

photo 062 Air Show X (Cruising at 22000 Feet) 0707h

For this very short flight, the flight attendants were really quite hardworking and busy. In this photo, you can see the stewardess collecting the used cups and trash.

photo 057 Collecting Trash 0705h

Oh, but did I mention that the flight attendants looked a little tired – all of them. It must have been really tiring to wake up so early in the morning for flight preparation…

At this point in time, there was nothing much to see outside of the window.

photo 059 In The Clouds

Therefore, I continued to explore the IFE. I looked through the selection of movies. It was quite good, but certainly not as extensive as some other airlines that boast their wide variety of IFE.

photo 063 Moviesphoto 064photo 065

Then, I also wanted to take a look at the airline’s current fleet.

photo 067 Fleet Info


photo 068 Under Construction

It’s alright. I will just flip the magazine then!

imagephoto s Okay, Flip the Magazinephoto 070 Fleet Info

Status: Cruising – Announcement from Flight Deck
02:41 from Leaving Home
00:29 from ATD
00:29 to ETA

29 minutes from departure, the captain came on the PA to provide us with the flight information. I didn’t quite understand what he was saying though.

As this was a short flight and I was seated on the window seat of a B737, I didn’t have the opportunity to leave my seat. I didn’t want to disturb my mom and the other passenger seated on the aisle seat (both were sleeping).

So, I just took a look at the rear of the cabin with my camera. There were quite a few empty seats at the back. The aircraft may probably be even emptier if MAS did not codeshare with so many other airlines – SilkAir, American Airlines, Singapore Airlines and China Southern Airlines. I did a quick check, for different SIN-KUL flights operated by MAS throughout the day, there are a few more other airlines that codeshare on specific flights.

photo 072 Rear of Aircraft

Status: Descending – Landing Preparation
02:43 from Leaving Home
00:31 from ATD
00:27 to ETA

To me, this feeling was really kind of amazing – the feeling of flying on such a short flight. Before I even actually managed to settle in my seat, descend already begun! Previously, I thought flights between Melbourne and Sydney are already very short. I guess I am wrong!

photo 073 Preparation for Landing 0713h

Descending pass 13,430 feet.

photo 074 Descending (Passing 13430 Feet)photo 075 Descendingphoto 076

Descending pass 11,500 feet.

photo 077 Descending (Passing 11500 Feet)

Welcome to Malaysia!

photo 078 Malaysia

The beauty of the sky, early in the morning.

photo 079 Looks Hazy But Sky is Beautiful

Almost there!

photo 080 Almost There 0716h

Slowing down for final approach.

photo 081 Slowing Downphoto 082 Preparing for Final Approach 0719h

The sun was welcoming us to Malaysia too!

photo 083 The Sun is Almost Out

A smooth and beautiful landing into Kuala Lumpur International Airport, an airport designed with the concept of “Airport in the Forest, Forest in the Airport”. Do note how long it took the aircraft to taxi from the runway to our gate. (Also, I am sorry for the poor quality of the video. I'll take note of it next time!) Also, I found the music played during landing and taxiing really nice.

Status: Touch Down
02:53 from Leaving Home
00:41 from ATD
00:17 to ETA

Our aircraft touched down at KLIA just about 3 hours after I left home. I must say, this was definitely one of my “most time-efficient” flying trip. Just take a look at my previous departure from Singapore – 3 hours after leaving home, I was still waiting for boarding to commence.

For this trip, 3 hours after I left home, I have already completed my first flight of the day – but of course, this is also possible because of the extremely short sector between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur!

Status: Arrived at Gate
03:02 from Leaving Home
00:50 from ATD
00:08 to ETA

MH602 arrived at the gate 8 minutes before schedule. We sat in the cabin for a while before it was our turn to disembark and I took the opportunity to snap a few photos of the “land of MAS”.

photo 087 The Land of MH

I also managed to capture the precious picture (albeit the fact that it’s really unclear – I zoomed in to the maximum possible) of a MAS B747-400. This aircraft was stored since May 2013.

photo 088 B747
Malaysia Airlines / 9M-MPP / B747-400

Soon, it was our turn to disembark. This screen was shown on the IFE screens.

photo 085 Thank You from MASphoto 086 Disembarking 0733h

While we disembarked, 9M-MSF was being refuelled for its next journey to Kota Kinabalu via Labuan as MH2608.

photo 090 Refuelling for Journey to KK via Labuan

It was really a pity that I just couldn’t get a good and nice photo of the cabin.

photo 091 New Seats

After we got into the terminal, I checked for the status of our next flight and confirmed that its boarding gate will be H10.

photo 092 Checking for The Next Flight 0759h

This concludes my first experience along the SIN-KUL sector. It was a nice flight and I sat on the window seat (which is something rare for me, as I usually prefer the aisle seat on longer flights). Service from the crew was comprehensive but there wasn’t any “personal touch” in my opinion – as I have pointed out, most of them looked rather tired. The purser and another flight attendant at the aircraft door also did not really bother to greet or acknowledge passengers as we boarded the aircraft.

In short, I couldn’t quite catch any evidence why MAS is rated as a 5-stars airline. If I do strictly want to compare, I would say that many other Asian airlines would be much better in terms of service. And as a frequent passenger on-board Qantas and Emirates flights, I would actually find services on these 4-stars airlines much better. But of course, there are many other factors to be considered.

Will my opinion be changed after the next flight to Taipei? Please do continue to read my report for the connecting flight!

Flight Statistics

photo 093 MH602 Map

photo 094 MH602 Stats

Terima Kasih means “Thank You” in Malay! Thank you for your time and your comments will be greatly appreciated! (:

photo 095 Terima Kasih

- End of Report for Malaysia Airlines MH602 -

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Malaysia Airlines has definitely got good products on its newest B737-800. The seats are certainly acceptable for regional travel and even with the absence of adjustable headrest, it doesn't affect the comfort level much. However, a grade of 7/10 would probably be the maximum it can get because of the legroom - 30 inches. The crew on this sector seemed really tired. There wasn't any 5-stars service but they definitely did whatever they had to do. A cup of apple juice with some peanuts will suffice for such a short flight. I didn't find the peanuts nice though - doesn't matter. The IFE was good, I would have awarded 8/10 if it hadn't been unresponsive during and just after take-off. Lastly, the on-time performance gets a full grade.

Changi Airport's security was a little less efficient this time round. I don't quite agree with combining the security screening of two different flights together (given that security only takes place at the boarding gates), the queue was just a little too long. Also, since my dad was able to drive us to the airport, the accessibility of the airport was certainly good given the light traffic on the expressways in the early morning. However, the only other alternative form of transportation would be taxis, if one was to depart on such an early flight. Regarding this point, I still feel that Changi Airport is in need of a 24-hour public transportation link to the city. The options available for us to catch our quick breakfast were reasonable.

At Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA), security was also done at the gates - and basically, it was flawless. Smooth and efficient. From what I know, there are many options that passengers can choose to get from the city to KLIA and vice versa. I will assess this more thoroughly during my KL trip in June. KLIA has a good range of F&B options and duty free shops, it probably wouldn't be as boring as transiting at airports like.... Darwin? (Haha!) But regarding the cleanliness of the airport, some improvements are definitely required in the toilets. In all other areas, it was relatively okay. Maybe except for the seats in the boarding lounge that looked kind of dirty? (3 marks deducted for the rather un-cleaned toilet and half a mark lesser for the stained seats.) Other than that, KLIA is an okay airport to transit in.

Information on the route Singapore (SIN) Kuala Lumpur (KUL)


If you liked this review or if you have any questions, don’t hesitate to post a comment below !
  • Comment 108801 by
    cedricGB 236 Comments

    Thanks for this FR, I like your photos, Very beautiful

  • Comment 108907 by
    Chibcha 448 Comments

    Very detailed and with nice pictures, maybe the short trip didn't allow for MAS to show its full splendor, although the check-in fiasco really screws things for one's perception of the airline.

    Thanks for sharing!

    • Comment 294432 by
      tn92 AUTHOR 173 Comments

      Hi Chibcha! Yeah, that was my reasoning after this particular flight too. Maybe it was a short flight - that's why. But unfortunately, the connecting flight wasn't really up to standard as well. As I have mentioned, I actually find services on-board Qantas, Emirates, EVA Air and sometimes even Jetstar, much friendlier than what I have observed. However, it isn't fair for me to generalise as well - there was a flight steward who consistently had a nice smile on his face. (:

      The incident at check-in was however, rather disappointing...

      Either way, thank you for you comment! Hope to see you around!

  • Comment 108909 by
    KévinDC TEAM SILVER 5584 Comments

    Thanks for this very nice and detailed report! The cabin looks attractive and modern visually, but I am definitely surprised thatthe seat pitch is only 30 inches--to me, that's not very 5-star. Thanks again for sharing this report!

    • Comment 294435 by
      tn92 AUTHOR 173 Comments

      Hi KevinDC! Yeah... Remember my report on Scoot? I realised that even Scoot has a seat pitch of 31 inches on their normal seats. Well, maybe it isn't entirely fair to compare a B777 with a B737, but if MAS wanted to improve their seat pitch, they actually could, isn't it? But my guess is, since MAS relies heavily on their 737s, it would thus be more feasible to design their aircrafts to be more economically viable in that sense.

      Thank you for your comment and encouragement! Appreciate it! See you around!

  • Comment 108927 by
    Numero_2 10004 Comments

    Thanks for sharing.

    The check-in agent was quite rude and in my opinion did a mistake telling you that you were in the wrong queue. There is no eligibility control to access this priority desk ?

    You might be the first one on this website who reports a flight departing from a remote position in SIN ! lol

    You were lucky to fly on this brand new B737.
    Nice to have the IFEs switched on for this short flight.

    Salted peanuts are served on such a early flight ??? How unusual it is !

    I'm also wondering why MH is rated as a 5 stars airlines... Skytrax mysteries !

    See you for the next leg. :)

    • Comment 294557 by
      tn92 AUTHOR 173 Comments

      Hi! Yeah, the agent was really quite rude and I was really a little unhappy with her. I was trying find someone to enquire if I can use the queue, but there wasn't anyone.

      Really? No one has reported departure from a remote stand at Changi before? The brand new aircraft is really nice, and with the AVOD screen, I could watch the air show! Peanuts were only given to those who want it, I took it for the sake of taking photos =P what I really wanted was the juice haha!

      Personally I believe MH can do better, especially on their longer routes. Hopefully my return trip tomorrow will be able to justify their star rating! I am still giving them lots of faith.
      Thanks for your comment!

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