Review of Air France flight Papeete Los Angeles in Premium Eco

Airline Air France
Flight AF77
Class Premium Eco
Seat 11A
Aircraft Boeing 777-200ER
Flight time 08:00
Take-off 16 May 14, 08:05
Arrival at 16 May 14, 19:05
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anthonytahiti
Published on 3rd September 2014
Here I go for a short business trip in France.

Short because family (my wife and my 3 years old kid) did not want to come with me and stay in France for holidays. But a lonely trip brings a lot of benefits ;)

As this is a business trip, I don’t pay myself the ticket, and as the stay is short, I would like to travel in more comfortable conditions than coach class. I asked for a flexible ticket in Economy or Premium Economy, so a paid upgrade would not be too expensive for me.

    1ST PART : From Tahiti to France Papeete [PPT] - Los Angeles [LAX], Air France AF77, B772, Premium Eco, May 16, 2014
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    Los Angeles [LAX] - Paris [CDG], Air France AF77, B772, Premium Eco, May 16, 2014 CLICK HERE 2ND PART : Back from France to Tahiti : Flying with style Paris [CDG] - Los Angeles [LAX], Air France AF66, A380, Premiere, May 25, 2014 CLICK HERE Los Angeles [LAX] - Papeete [PPT] Air Tahiti Nui TN1, A343, Business, May 25, 2014 CLICK HERE


For this trip to France, this is a Premium Economy ticket. Today is the first day of school holidays in Tahiti, so the plane is full in all classes, and I had no opportunity at any time to find a Z or I fare (cheapest Business fares).

This is how I find myself in Premium Economy cabin for this trip, in a cabin that I had often taken in the past on this route and that I’m not a fan, considering the unfavorable price value. I find the the seat too uncomfortable on a flight as long, especially at night.

But I will not be choosy, so here we go :

Let’s go to PPT airport in a sunny morning

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Classic flight schedule today with AF flight to LAX and CDG and TN flight to Tokyo NRT. Recently, Air Calin moved its flight between NOU and PPT from Wednesday to Friday

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Many people at the check-in counters this morning.

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I do not advance quickly despite I’m in the SkyPriority lane

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I need 45 minutes to reach the check-in desk

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Yesterday, I have done my online check-in on the Internet for all flights of my journey on two different folders, but registering my baggage to the final destination will be a bit laborious

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Passing passport control and security filters is very fast

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Here I am in the departure hall

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I go upstairs to have a view on the tarmac:
On my left, my 777 today will be F-GSPD (B777-200ER)

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On my right, the A332 of Air Calin, which will take off to Noumea only in the late afternoon

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I go to the airport lounge, I have to hurry, I only have a few minutes before boarding

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Food offer does not change (not so many choices)

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This time I don’t drink the famous Hinano beer, but another local beer while boarding starts

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I go to the gate 5 minutes after entering the lounge

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Now come the best moment as I walk away from the terminal

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To move towards my bird

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Large fan

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Last moments in the open air

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Furtive view to the Business cabin

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And here is my seat in the Premium Economy cabin, the best one I could choose: window left side, middle rank

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Generous legroom, the advantage of the Premium Economy is a space saving

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Air France Magazine, and a menu that is not the one of this flight distributed in advance, but the previous LAX PPT forgotten in the pocket

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The safety card is well hidden in a corner of the legroom, I searched a little while

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The tray table has the advantage to unfold in 2 to provide a large surface for laying meal tray and laptop for example (tray table is reduced at the first row, one of the reasons that I did not want this first row)

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Power outlet (functional after takeoff)

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IFE, with good size screen for economy, and headphones (commonplace quality) and remote controller

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Safety belt with airbag

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End of boarding

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Push back at the scheduled departure time

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Take off 10 minutes later

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Left turn and views of PPT runway and Tahiti lagoon

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Moorea

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GE90 purring in the sun

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The show begins with Tetiaroa



Then Mataiva, a little too far

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Tikehau is closer

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Village and airport (TIH)

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Focus on coral reef

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GE90 literally swallows Tikehau

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Then comes Rangiroa

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The view of the « Blue Lagoon » is always beautiful



Tuamotu overview nearing completion

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Last view on Rangiroa, with vineyards planted in the middle of the coral

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Distribution of amenity kit (specific of Premium Economy)

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Content identical to the Business one, but lacks the sample of Clarins cream

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Distribution of the menu

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Aperitif : Champagne in its plastic glass

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Signature shot

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Before serving the meal, I start my movie session with a good one : Monuments men

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The size of the screen, as big as in Business ;)

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The meal tray is served

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Metal cutlery

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I continue the meal with Champagne. Its better with a real glass made of… glass

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It's time to eat, reminder of the menu

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Starter, chicken ballottine with crab, summer salad is good

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I selected as main course chicken fafa with coconut milk which is also good

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Some dairy in a box

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At last the dessert, the chocolate cake is good but a little too stodgy

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This meal is satisfactory, although the meal ends there but it seemed to me that the Premium catering was improved by some sweets after meal

After that, the Premium economy cabin is quiet

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It is also quiet in the Economy cabin

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I continue my movie session with 2 french films

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During this movie session, the Premium seat reminds to my good memories, I begin to have sore buttocks

The light meal is served 1 hour 30 minutes before arrival

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The quality is less than average, even disappointing like the sandwich

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We are now approaching the U.S. west coast

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Long Beach

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Oil rig off the coast of Long Beach

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More pictures of Long Beach against the light

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Long Beach Airport

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In Los Angeles flow rivers of concrete

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The concrete also makes nodes

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We touch down at LAX with a few minutes early

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Planespotting from another era

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More contemporary planespotting

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5 minutes later we arrive at the parking stand at TBIT

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We are not too disoriented with our neighbor (Air France B772 4 classes P,J,W,Y performing AF69/AF72 flights)

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We are at the gate

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Last Air France spotting

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We disembark quickly

Transit Guide in the new TBIT

Here is an illustrated transit guide in the Tom Bradley Terminal for the PPT LAX CDG flights, Air France has established all its flights to and from LAX here instead of Terminal 2 (since end of march 2014)

Upon disembarking, follow the signs going up an escalator

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Short path in a corridor of glass and carpet

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Going down another escalator

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To arrive in the immigration room

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There are few people and passport control takes only few minutes. After that, there is no customs control for this transit (no more blue paper to fill) and I go to a passage marked by AF staff holding a panel « Paris CDG »

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The path is signposted thereafter

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We pass through a corridor used by the pax heading to the boarding area

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We arrive behind the security checks that we bypass on the right

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We arrive now into the check-in area of the TBIT

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But we are directed immediately to our left to a dedicated queue to security checks for transit pax

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After that, we find ourselves in the corridor that we crossed earlier and we follow the direction To all gates to the departure hall

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The transit procedure is much easier and faster than before in the Terminal 2, it took me about 20 minutes. A very significant improvement from AF and LAX.


To be continued …
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Verdict

Air France

7.4/10
Cabin7.5
Cabin crew7.0
Entertainment/wifi8.0
Meal/catering7.0

Papeete - PPT

7.5/10
Efficiency5.0
Access10.0
Services7.0
Cleanliness8.0

Los Angeles - LAX

9.5/10
Efficiency10.0
Access9.0
Services9.0
Cleanliness10.0

Conclusion

Air France
Comfort is in line with what I expected, suitable for a day flight. The benefits of premium seat are clearly felt for a day flight : more private space, a larger tablet. Note, however, small people (like my neighbor on the flight) complain about the discomfort caused by the difficulties to reach the footrest. The character too hard of the seat begins to annoy after several hours, but less than for a night flight
Crew : smiling at boarding, we don’t see them often during the flight in the Premium cabin of small size
Catering : a good first meal despite an oversight in the Premium protocol service (the cone with candy) and a really disappointing light meal
Entertainment : The screen is a good size for economy, the choice of film is vast and VOD is nice, weak point is the poor quality of headphones
On time performance : perfectly on time

Manuhiri Lounge
Not rated, I spent only 5 minutes in there

PPT international airport
Easy access to the airport.
Once is not custom, check in was very long, more than 45 minutes despite SkyPriority queue
Airside, nothing changes. Open space pleasant but nothing special.

LAX TBIT
The great surprise of this flight. Passport control took 5 minutes, the transit is quick in a recent and nice terminal. The Air France move to TBIT is great news !

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7 Comments

  • Comment 117010 by
    Alif A.F. 30 Comments

    Very nice report! The journey from Papeete to LAX must be very lonely as there is literally no islands insight in between the two places!

  • Comment 117011 by
    jetsetpanda 2294 Comments

    Thanks for sharing another magnificent report.

    AF Y+ is a decent product and there are elements that feel more J than Y. The seat itself is a clear differentiator and other elements like a decent amenity kit, printed menu, real glass, metal utensils and candy cone (which was omitted in your case) contribute to a more dignified experience.

    Catering of the first meal is fine, but the snack service leaves a lot to be desired. The quantity is insufficient in my opinion and the quality could be better. After all, this is a French company and there should be higher expectations. Personally I would be happy with an open faced sandwich made with smoked salmon and a good piece of pastry along with some fruit like grapes, a plum or clementine.

    Looking forward to your continuation.

    • Comment 301670 by
      anthonytahiti AUTHOR 1571 Comments

      Thank you for your comment.
      My opinion, this Premium Eco is more an improved Y than a cheap J. AF economy is not so bad for the service, the seat is a weakpoint with 10 seat in a row. So the Premium seat is clearly an improvement with more space. But the price of this premium is not only some dollars or euros more (like american Y+) but much more expensive (About 1000 € for PPT CDG roundtrip). So I expect more from this Premium.

  • Comment 117131 by
    KévinDC TEAM SILVER 5307 Comments

    Beautiful report as always! The views on departure are heaven...such beautiful colors! As you know, I'm a fan of the AF Premium Economy product for the most part...of course, I imagine prices between Washington, DC and Paris are much more attractive than on such a long flight from PPT to CDG. The snack on arrival is just a bad as the snack on Transatlantic day flights. The larger tray table is definitely a plus if you have work to get done. It's the largest tray table I've encountered in any class.

    • Comment 301671 by
      anthonytahiti AUTHOR 1571 Comments

      Hello Kevin and thank you for your comment.
      Yes Premium Is a good alternative for a day flight not to long like a TATL Europe / East coast
      The price for a very long flight is... maddening (Pititom can book a RTW in J for less)

  • Comment 117603 by
    Invaders 2 Comments

    Great report. Thanks for sharing.

    As noted above, the Y+ product looks great compared to for example British Airways. I`ve not been flying AF since 2006 but PPT is on my to do list along with AF to SXM. Your reports are a great read and I do hope you keep em coming.

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