Review of Air France flight Paris Stockholm in Economy

Airline Air France
Flight AF1062
Class Economy
Seat 28F
Aircraft Airbus A321
Flight time 02:30
Take-off 15 Jun 16, 16:00
Arrival at 15 Jun 16, 18:30
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By GOLD 628
Published on 18th June 2016
This was another short business trip to Stockholm :

CDG –ARN : AF 1062 You are here, I translated it in French there
ARN – CDG : AF1063 To be posted soon

The story of this flight begins with the OLCI. Air France has recorded that I prefer window seats, and had preassigned me Seat 7A. What AF’s data base cannot record is that I prefer window seats with good lighting conditions for photographic reasons, which means on the right side when flying north in the afternoon.
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No problem, you can change (but no earlier than ETD-30h) the seat, and you can do it for free if it is not an exit row. I do not care for exit rows because the extra leg space does not compensate the various constraints. So I changed to Seat 8F, which should have a nice wing view, but then had a doubt and checked
Bingo ! Seats 8A and 8F don’t have a window in an AF A321, and that was a no-no. So I changed again to Seat 10F, although the wing might be partly in the way looking aft.
And then I checked again and bingo! Row 10 does not have windows either.
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The only acceptable seat was way back, but I was not going to be in a rush when landing in ARN, and taking an extra quarter of an hour to deplane was not an issue.
When I boarded the plane the day after, I had a look at these seats in Rows 8 and 10 : no window indeed at Row 8, but how did Seatguru not see the window at Row 10 ?
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I dutifully received three BPs by e-mails in French. What was amusing was that AF sent me a reminder in English to check-in half an hour after I had already received the first BP. Obviously, these e-mails are generated by computer systems which do not communicate with each other.
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Getting to Terminal 2F’s parking lot requires driving beyond the terminals and turn back, and since the parking lots of Terminal 2E and 2F actually communicate with each other, I thought it would save time to take the Terminal 2E parking lot entrance. Bad idea : it is a continuous parking lot at Level -2, but this level was nearly full, and at Level -3, there is a solid partition between both levels.
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I had plenty of time, parked close to the access to Terminal 2E , and decided to walk, actually a long way, because I missed the shortest way between the terminals , so much so that the only signage was for buses.
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It took all the longer that I stumbled on that barrier (you can’t see the forty-odd travelers waiting behind in that picture), possibly because of a suspicious item being investigated – I did not ask for a confirmation.
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My best option was to wait, since I could afford wasting the time needed to check a suspicious item, and took a picture of that AF A321.
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There was not much waiting, and I stayed ahead of the forty-odd pack pf passengers to avoid sudden crowding. It was early afternoon on an ordinary day, and the waiting was very reasonable at the security check.
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My flight was announced on time at the FIDS
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Paul Andreu designed Terminal 2F so that it be brightly lit by the overhead glass. In theory, it should look like this
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But he had forgotten that planes carry passengers, or rather that passengers are often waiting for planes to carry them, so that instead of looking like this
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… there are often lots of soon to board passengers blocking the way
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Priority one for me was to go to the toilets, at the lower level, going down these escalators
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The toilets were clean, but they were as usual too few (again, the architect underestimated the traffic), and the one for handicapped passengers was unavailable (but there was probably another one on the ladies’ side).
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I did not find a water fountain in the terminal, and the only place way to drink water for free is by using these taps. (In China, tap water is not safe for drinking, but you have cold and hot water fountains in all airports).
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Air France offers free copies of a reasonable array of mostly French newspapers. They used to be alongside the corridor, but that was too much in the way and they are now in the bridges connecting both sides of the jetty. (You can also download electronic versions of magazines, but I do not have a tablet, and a smartphone's screen is too small for that use IMO).
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I guess many passengers aren’t aware that they are there, so there was an ample supply, enough reading matter to handle the waiting time of both flights, when typing this flight report on my laptop was not an option.
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Empty seats at a gate without departing flights around. Three pairs of power ports for 28 seats is not many, but I know a number of airports which do not provide any to their passengers.
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Two PS4 game stations, unusually with patronage
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AZ A320 spotted in the distance
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The plane had arrived
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It was not going to be on time, since the loading of the catering ended a couple minutes before ETD.
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CDG is not very spotter-friendly : getting a side shot of the aircraft was impossible, but at least I got the registration number.
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A screen close to the gate displayed the seating layout of Jet Airways Flight 6829, a.k.a AF1063
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Free wifi internet access (requiring some navigation to validate that I only wanted the free option), with enough bandwidth for displaying FR’s home page.
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A longish line had formed before boarding had started.
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That is when I wondered again why I had this red SkyPriority logo on the top right of my BP
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Bingo ! I was flying in Economy and I have no status with FB, but my Economy Flex fare was in the “We also welcome” list of second class priority passengers.
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Going down the jetbridge with wide clean windows
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The cabin was not going to remain that empty : AF’s flight to/from ARN are notoriously full.
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I could have had a window seat further in front, but this was a window seat on the correct side, and that was all what mattered to me.
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These were the old, but comfortable seats
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I seldom if ever recline my seat, but you could
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The seat width between armrests was a decent 45 cm
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But a window seat has an 8 cm space, beyond the armrest
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Seat pitch is a standard25 cm from seat limit to the magazine pocket. OK, but a couple centimeters less than what you get on a Chinese domestic flight.
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Marathon carpet cleanliness test : passed
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The safety card, both sides
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Same plane spotting while waiting for the pushback : Hop! E-170
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AF A318
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AF A320, in standard and Skyteam liveries
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Air Europa 738
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An ANA 787 landing in the distance
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AF 777-300ER
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Pushback at ETD+22’, and taxi past these idle snow plows in tiger livery
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Alignment on Runway 27L
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The runway was wet ; this was the water vapor created by the reactors before lifting off.
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G-GTAK was airborne at ETD+42’
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The town of Louvres. Its name predates by many centuries that of the unrelated Louvre Museum, but both names may derive from the Latin word lupus which evolved into loup in French, meaning “wolf”, of which there were certainly many there in the early Middle Ages.
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The town of Goussainville
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The cloverleaf interchange of freeway N104 with Highway D316
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The strangely triangular leaves makes it an easily recognizable landmark
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Turning towards ARN above the Oise River, an affluent of the Seine River
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The locks at Bruyères sur Oise
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The golf Club du Lys Chantilly, and the town of Chantilly in the background
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The posh city of Chantilly is famous for its castle and it horse racetrack
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Close up on the castle
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The meal, as served
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The hot wrap was labeled “Mozza champis”, presumably the abbreviation of “mozarella – champignons”, the latter word being mushrooms, in French.
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There was indeed a lot of melted cheese inside, but I didn’t detect the presence of mushrooms. The rest, yogurt and cut apples, could not go wrong because these are so basic supplies.
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Some clouds initially
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There was a nearly full moon, but a thick cloud cover on most of the way
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This attempt at an air-to-air shot was doomed : the other plane was really too far away
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A white body with a dark band around the front section of the fuselage, and dark wingtips : any suggestion for the identification of the airline ?
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Hultsfred airport, a former Swedish air base, has been privatised and is now used by a flying club only.
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The town of Hulstfred
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The town of Gamleby, in the lower left corner of the picture, and Västervik in the top right corner, at the far end of the long fjord connecting Gamleby to the sea
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Close up on Västervik
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The maze of islands around Krakmarö Island. the dark line in the picture is the contrail of a plane that I either missed or never caught up with
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Utö and Nattarö islands
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Drevviken lake
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This was the route when approaching ARN, tracked by Flightradar24.
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A distinct set of buildings in Bollmora, in suburban Tyresö municipality.
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The ferries which serve Stockholm, leaving towards Åland and Helsinki, for instance, take a long and winding channel until they reach the open Baltic sea.
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Three of them could be seen on that route
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One ship (a tiny white dot) under the winglet, and a closer one to the right, with the city of Åkersberga in the foreground.
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The Österåker prison, clearly divided into two sections
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Crossing ARN’s Runway 08/26
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Poor lighting conditions for a Caravelle in poor condition.
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A Flybe Dash 8 lifting off
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A Falcon 7X
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Approaching ARN’s Terminal 2
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There were three 767s there (including a freighter) :
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This old 747-200 transformed in a hotel is a landmark of ARN
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You can buy your rail tickets from the machines alongside the wall behind the passengers, while waiting for your checked luggage. Why don’t we have similar SNCF (French Railways) ticketing machines in the luggage delivery rooms in CDG?
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I could not ignore that there are buses to Stockholm’s central stations
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But since my company is OK for paying 540 SEK round trip on the much faster (and presumably more comfortable) Arlanda Express train
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… why not take it ?
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This was not the last presumed suspicious package in my trip : these escalators down to the subway were blocked by staff, like in CDG. But there were ways around it, and I did not wait until they were released
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This is the end of this flight report, and the beginning of as much of a tourist bonus as I could make in a short and busy business trip.

I was surprised to see this long line of runners from the subway before reaching Gamla Stan station
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I did not identify what this race was – what surprised me most was that it was scheduled on a weekday, which never happens in France.
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My hotel was between the Ericsson Globe (the round structure left) and the Tele2 Arena (the stadium on the right), seen here from Flight AF1062, back in March 2014.
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This is was it looks like when you are next to it. The twin tracks are for cabins which run all the way to the top of the structure to provide a panorama of the area.
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Next to it, this is the short side of the Tele2 Arena
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The Tele2 Arena, the Quality Hotel Globe and the Ericsson Globe
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The Quality Hotel Globe ? I had a small room with a view downward to a canvas cover inside the atrium , upward to the non-transparent cover of the atrium and sideways to a tiny portion of the sky through atrium windows.
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And when an Australian guest asked if the hotel would bring her party’s half dozen of piece of luggage to their rooms, the receptionist said “yes, but this is charged extra”. She could not believe it, and, within hearing range, couldn’t either.
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I thought I might end this bonus with a plane shot when I took a walk outside, but bad luck, the only plane I saw departing from the domestic Bromma airport turned just overhead, so I could only identify the type as a probable Dash 8-400
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Thanks for reading me up to here !
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The flight was slightly late; it was going to be much worse on the way back.
The catering was not the kind of food that I would buy for myself, but it does its job of keeping you from being hungry during the flight without providing a real dinner.
No IFE on board, but the newspapers made available in CDG and my laptop for starting writing this were enough.
In short, this was a typical intra-European flight, convenient, but never meant to be the highlight of a trip.

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  • Comment 353846 by
    Rl 777 810 Comments

    Thank you for sharing another FR to/from ARN with us!

    Nice spotting shots at CDG!

    Absolutely fantastic aerial shots, the weather seemed to be great that day.

    The plane you spotted in-flight was a Norwegian 737-800. The band in front is dark because it's backlit, otherwise it's red.

    Great shots before arrival and nice spotting shots at ARN!

    Thank you for the bonus from my home city.

    Have a good one, see you!

    • Comment 353883 by
      marathon GOLD AUTHOR 9566 Comments

      The weather had been great in Stockholm until my arrival, and I had sunshine in Paris too. It deteriorated soon afterwards in both cities.

      Thanks for the identification of the Norwegian plane, and for your comment !

  • Comment 354392 by
    jetsetpanda 2295 Comments

    Thank you Marathon for sharing this intra-European FR with always interesting aerials.

    "… there are often lots of soon to board passengers blocking the way"
    - I had the "pleasure" of using 2F a few years back on a flight by AZ and thought that it was a bit unpleasant.

    "There was indeed a lot of melted cheese inside, but I didn’t detect the presence of mushrooms."
    - Perhaps it was mozzarella with mushroom essence. :P Similar to seafood dishes with "lobster" sauce at some Chinese restaurants.

    Nice bonus of Stockholm.

    • Comment 354410 by
      marathon GOLD AUTHOR 9566 Comments

      What beats me is that the designers of Terminal F overlooked the fact that the passengers always stand in line at the gate when boarding is announced, and that they did not leave any space for that. Did they visit an airport before starting at the drawing board ? ^^

      Better not take airline food in Economy as a reference of a country’s gastronomy. In all fairness, there are quite similar wraps in the frozen food stores that I patronize in France.

      Thanks for your comment !

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