Review of EVA Air flight Paris Taipei in Business

Airline EVA Air
Flight BR88
Class Business
Seat 3A
Aircraft Boeing 777-300ER
Flight time 12:40
Take-off 02 Jan 18, 11:20
Arrival at 03 Jan 18, 07:00
BR   #16 out of 117 Airlines A minimum of 20 Flight-Reports is required in order to appear in the rankings. 78 reviews
marathon
By GOLD 1765
Published on 7th January 2018
After a year of weekly shuttles between CDG and ARN, I would never waste a chance to go to Taiwan and my manager knew it very well.
Matrix suggested this array of routings: the mandate of my company’s travel agency is to privilege direct flights, but there is room for negotiation if a non-direct flight is cheaper.
photo clipboard010a
Air China for 2047 EUR? Adding a hot night to my expense claim and reaching my destination one day later would be a hard sell.
photo clipboard011a
Hainan Airlines would have optimized the 72 hour Chinese visa exemption in XIY, and given me a chance to visit again thoroughly Xi’an, but could I really take four days to reach TPE on Friday afternoon, just in time for the week-end there ?
photo clipboard011b
China Eastern’s option meant spending five hours in their disappointing lounge in PVG on the way out, without a chance for a brief encounter with local friends since it would be a working day. On the way back, I would need to recover my checked luggage, go through the immigration (using the visa exemption) and transit from SHA to PVG: I know Shanghai and its airports well enough to worry about it, but it is nevertheless long and tiring.

The choice narrows therefore down very quickly to Eva Air’s direct flights. I dislike reaching a LH destination in the early morning, but this was an opportunity to test this airline on a long haul flight. BR had only three weekly flights to CDG five years ago, and they were very expensive: the preferred routing was then AF or CX via HKG. AF has obviously abandoned the idea of selling flights to TPE: the listed price is now 50% than that of BR in Business, and nearly double in Economy!

You may now that BR operates some flights to/from CDG with 77Ws in Hello Kitty livery: it would have been more fun, but the Tuesday flight from CDG is in standard livery. Departing from CDG on Monday January 1st would have required explaining to my wife that I would skip the New Year lunch with Mom-in-law for the sole purpose of flying in a Hello Kitty jet: this was a non-starter.
photo clipboard08b
After a Flight-Reporter’s research, my choice narrowed to the flight that I would have had if I had simply asked to our travel agency “a round trip flight to Taipei departing on January 2nd”, like most of colleagues would do.

Once my ticket had been issued, I was not going to be impressed by this statement of the travel agency, deep inside the maze of fare conditions:
photo clipboard01b
Seats assigned by the airline during check-in

No kidding… I only needed to go on BR’s website to select a seat on this diagram. The graphic design is not fancy, but all useful information is there ; note in particular that BR plays it fair with window seat addicts like me the seats which are overwing and/or without a window. There is none in Business class, but few airlines deliver this kind of information. Seat 3A, on the left side, therefore not in the sun’s direction on that flight, seemed to be a good option for me.
photo clipboard04b
The description of the catering by the same travel agency was terse : “Type of Meal : Meal”
photo clipboard02a
There again, I only needed to go on BR’s website to find a much more detailed information :
photo clipboard014a
Eva Air also proposes special meals. Note that there is no kosher meal (this was the best AF special meal on CDG-ARN), because there is no domestic market since there are only a few hundred Jews in Taiwan. Muslims are also not that many in Taiwan, mostly Indonesian migrant workers who are not travelling to Europe.
photo clipboard07a
This is my first long haul trip on BR and I doubt I’ll have a chance to taste the eight hot meals before they change the menu. The seafood meal was a serious option for me, but I doubt this would be enough to justify another business trip to TPE. I chose the Spicy Scallops in Royal Style Served with Steamed Rice. Note that you can choose to not have a meal, or make a choice in flight between the default choices.

The first two choices for breakfast have already been praised by Flight Reporters, so I could only choose the Chinese Plain Congee, a quintessential local breakfast. Note that Eva Air also provides a facility to be warned in case a preselected meal not available.
photo clipboard015a

D Day came ; the taxi ride from Paris was exceptionally fast all the way to CDG : the school vacations were not over yet, nobody leave on vacation the day after a week-end and there would presumably be few business travelers on the first working day of the year.
photo img_0205a
The taxi drop off zone at terminal 1 which is outrageously undersized was nevertheless somewhat jammed and the taxi driver cursed both this design and the illegal presence of Uber cars. (She was a lady, a rarity in that trade, with a pleasant Portuguese accent).
photo img_0210a
This was not a broken window, but a decorative wind breaker at the entrance of the terminal, just after the double automatic doors. Nice, but a possible nuisance in peak travel days.
photo img_0209a
I had been dropped just next to the Eva Air check in counters, by pure chance.
photo img_0206a
A mild mannered staff, here right, was filtering the access to the J/Elite check in counters with a name list.
photo img_0208a
Slightly less smile, but just as much efficiency for the staff at the check in counter. My 19 kg suitcase was just below half of the 40 kg checked luggage allowance for business travelers on this flight.
photo img_0207a
Some meager Christmas decorations landside at Departures level
photo img_0212aphoto img_0213a
For plane spotting landside, the place to be is the Arrivals level, because it is two floors further up, high enough to provide a view on the tarmac around the central building
Arrival of a Flybe E-195 Flybe in special livery
photo img_0216a
An AF A340 is towed to an unknown destination
photo img_0217a
Good news : the Eva Air 77W is already there, but I can see its tail only.
photo img_0218a
I have a special liking for the special livery of this Brussel Airlines A320
photo img_0220a
Another Brussel Airlines A320, in standard livery
photo img_0231a
Eurowings A320, with a Hop! Embraer in the background
photo img_0221a
Singapore Airlines 777-300ER
photo img_0222a

In the background, on both sides of the CDG-VAL people mover line, the French Air Force long haul passenger aircraft are at rest at their usual parking places.
photo img_0224a
With three A310 : F-RADA, F-RADB et F-RADC

And an A340 : F-RAJB
photo img_0226a
United Airlines 767-400 in Star Alliance livery
photo img_0229a
Thai Airways A380
photo img_0230a
Pushback of a Eurowings A320
photo img_0233a
After this 360 degree scan of the horizon, I went up the famous Terminal 1 tubes

No waiting at the passport check : there was no passenger neither at the automated gates, nor at the manual gates which were the faster option.
photo img_0238a
Since there are zero windows in the circular corridor, no need to linger there
photo img_0239a
I go the Star Alliance lounge
photo img_0240a
A friendly welcome by the staff at the entrance desk facing this newspaper stand along the wall – a rather standard layout.
photo img_0241a
What is substandard is the outside view : you see this
photo img_0242a
…just before going down to the lower level where there is no window
photo img_0243a
The only open air space is this tiny smoker’s yard, designed like a prison exercise yard, including an anti-helicopter evasion netting overhead.
photo img_0244a
The lounge itself had of course no window whatsoever, but provided adequate uncrowded space.
photo img_0245a
The offering of food did not go beyond minimal requirement : bread and pastries
photo img_0247a
Salad, cheese and cold cuts
photo img_0248a
Fruits and yoghurts
photo img_0250a
There is muesli, but since I did not know what I would find, I had eaten a serving before leaving home.
photo img_0252a
The desserts are no better than those in ARN’s Terminal 2 lounge.
photo img_0246a
I am going to finish two hot meals out of three !
photo img_0249a
A standard coffee machine
photo img_0251a
Good news : there were Type E/F power ports behind the sofa where I took a seat. It was alongside a mirrored partition wall into which I took this picture.
photo img_0253a
Bad news, this pair of power ports and the next pair on the other side were not powered. I mentioned that to the staff at the welcome desk when leaving: she was writing down something and was obviously uninterested in that piece of information.
photo img_0257a
My selection
photo img_0254a
A magazine stand
photo img_0255a
The wifi internet connection was reasonably easy and the throughput was OK.
photo img_0256a
The toilets were clean, but the cover of the flush control here was gone (reflections hide that, but it looked a lot less good in real life)
photo img_0258a
One urinal out of three was out of use
photo img_0259a
Boarding time approached: I left the lounge, without paying interest to these duty-free shops that I am never interested in.
photo img_0260a
Long walk on a travellator under the tarmac to Satellite 5. Not using the travellator is a bad idea, because you eventually reach stairs which can’t be seen from the other end.
photo img_0261a
Terminal 1’s boarding satellites are notoriously spotter-unfriendly with regards to the plane that you are going to board, and this one was no exception to the rule.
photo img_0262aphoto img_0264a
TF-GAY, a Wow Air A330, taxies by
photo img_0263a
Since I could not recharge my laptop in the lounge, maybe I could do it at the boarding gate ?
photo img_0265a
You could imagine that this plug, in front of my seat or the one which was next my seat would be powered.
photo img_0266a
Wrong: these plugs are for decorative purposes only. The only powered port in the vicinity was at the foot of this couple of passengers far left, and if they read this report, I thank them once again for plugging in (and then back) my laptop’s cord which was just long enough.
photo img_0267a
J/Elite boarding begins at Gate 54, and Economy at Gate 55.
photo img_0269a
A selection of newspapers in ideograms, but there is Le Figaro (France) at the far end.
photo img_0270a
Door shot for fans
photo img_0271a
Another door shot for addicts to this equipment which as essential on the ground as it is useless in flight.
photo img_0272a
And then, suddenly, like if a door had opened into another world, there is a hubbub in Mandarin with this so peculiar Taiwanese accent which instantly brings me back to an island that I left already four and half years earlier. Sure, Taiwanese friends came to Paris since then and Mrs. Marathon has displayed a lot of understanding during long conversations when she did not understand much, but it was not quite the same. (If needed, refer to the bonus of this FR to understand my relationship with Taiwan)
Once this long moment of emotion was gone, let’s have a look at my seat : aviation geeks will have recognized a Zodiac Aerospace Cirrus (I cheated and reviewed this report (in French) before flying)
photo img_0273a
It is a window seat, and even a two window seat, but it is unfortunately very far from these windows, further from them than if I had been sitting in a middle seat in Economy.
photo img_0275aphoto img_0391a
Couples like this one do not have much of a choice : they must either be together in the center,
photo img_0277a
… or strictly separated from each other if one of them wants a window seat, because the window and center seats are misaligned to minimize the visual communication across the aisles.
photo img_0284a
Once everybody was seated, calm prevailed in the cabin, but during the flight (mercifully not too often), I had a regular reminder of the jerk on flight, i.e. Mrs PAX5D. Mrs PAX5D was traveling with young PAX5A, her 5 year old son who was very quiet, unlike his mother. She kept addressing him with a sound level which could have handled him if he had been at Seat 1K. She also talked to the FAs exclusively in French, demanding U-NE FOUR-CHET-TE ! , separating each syllable and so loud that the whole cabin would know she needed a fork. (Eva Air oddly names D and G the center seats, which does not stand for Gauche ("left" in French) and Droite = "right"; it was probably aggravating for Mrs PAX5D)

I bet one TWD that Mrs PAX5D was an expat wife, gone home with her son during the Christmas break while her husband was working (Christmas is not a bank holiday in Taiwan, but January 1st is one), and was coming back to Tianmu 天母, the expats neighborhood that I stayed away from when I was working in Taipei. (When you have kids of school age, you can’t avoid living close to the international schools, but this was not my case). No she was not the lady in this picture; her seat was one row further front.
photo img_0276a
Let’s revert to the cabin layout:
The table tray in two parts deploys from a slit: it is quite large, but too high for comfortable use of my laptop – I guess that the designer was taller than I am.
photo img_0278a
The various controls are directly accessible when you are seated, and the power port was on from boarding onward.
photo img_0279a
I did not use the headphones.
photo img_0281a
Eva Air offers a pajama to their J customers : there are two sizes (M and L). I found the quality good
photo img_0285a
The contents are nothing special, but the amenity kit is offered in a neat Rimowa semi-rigid mini case. I find it pretty, but the pleating prevents opening it flat, which I find inconvenient. I may well use some surgery on it when I am back home.
photo img_0289aphoto img_0290a
The safety card both sides
photo img_0356aphoto img_0357a
You may have noticed the wifi logo on the aircraft door ; these are the fees for use. For confidentiality reasons, working in an aircraft is very poorly thought of in my company, so I had no legitimate reason for adding that to my expenses claim.
photo img_0358a
Few passengers could claim to not have enough space for their legs when seated.
photo img_0282aphoto img_0283a
The coat hook
photo img_0305a
The carpet was clean
photo img_0423a
The FAs knelt systematically to the level of the passengers at each individual interaction with them.
photo img_0288aphoto img_0304a
Welcome drink and oshibori on a tray
photo img_0291a
Over 90 cm between my seat back and the surface of the screen: I definitely did not have the arm long enough to use the touchscreen features while being comfortably seated. The seat designer must have been a volleyball player in his youth.
photo img_0492a
I measured the screen diagonal to be 15", which is not all that large due to the distance from the eyes.
photo img_0293a
It did not show that much with daylight, but the ceiling is full of tiny LEDs to give the impression of a starry sky at night.
photo img_0302a
The menu is bilingual English – Chinese : this is the complete copy of the English pages

A glimpse of the cockpit during boarding: the captain of course eventually shut the door
photo img_0303a
The jetbridge separated from the aircraft and pushback started promptly
photo img_0306a
The departure was unmistakably punctual
photo img_0309a
Leaving Terminal 1 provided another plane spotting opportunity : Lufthansa A319
photo img_0308a
Lufthansa A321
photo img_0312a
Turkish Airlines A330
photo img_0311a
The safety demonstration was on a dance theme – a pleasant variation.
photo img_0313a
My readers who are experienced travelers probably already knew it ( ?), but that was when I learnt that “flight mode” translates into飛航模式 in Chinese.
photo img_0314a
The ground staff performed his traditional dance
photo img_0322a
… while the safety demonstration continued on their own traditional dance.
photo img_0325a
Aegean A321
photo img_0316a
LOT737
photo img_0319a
The TG A380 would need a paint job
photo img_0326a
She looks like an aircraft in long term storage
photo img_0320a
The right side is no better
photo img_0332a
Norwegian Long Haul 787
photo img_0331a
United Airlines 767
photo img_0334a
United Airlines 787, both sides
photo img_0335aphoto img_0336a
A321 Lufthansa at her gate and Turkish Airlines A330 under tow
photo img_0338a
The tracks and Terminal 1’s station of the CDG-VAL people mover

photo img_0339a
A330 XL Airways (quite blurry) and the rear of a Transavia737
photo img_0342a
Royal Air Maroc 737
photo img_0344a
La Compagnie 757-200
photo img_0345a
Last sight of the United787
photo img_0347a
Arrival of a Turkish Airlines737
photo img_0349a
Our plane aligned on the long Runway 9R much further down it than planes which have taxied from terminal 2, which precluded any view on Terminal 1 once aloft. An American Airlines 787 while still on the ground.
photo img_0350a
We were already at the level of the maintenance and freight areas when we became airborne
photo img_0351aphoto img_0352a
Le Bourget Airport (LBG), dedicated to business flights. The low cloud ceiling does not provide much hope for landscapes on route
photo img_0354a
This was the scenery at the end of the climb
photo img_0359a
The prelude (sic) :
Port Wine Foie Gras
Shrimp with Mango Salsa

photo img_0362a
A three centimeter diameter : the prelude is piano.
I am no specialist of foie gras, but I was not impressed by this one.
photo img_0364a
I liked the design of the tablecloth which was then laid on the table tray.
photo img_0366a
There came a break in the cloud cover : where were we ?
photo img_0374a
This is a good time in this report to berate the moving map in an Eva Air 77W.
photo img_0369a
It is similar to that of a Finnair A330 in Economy (report here in French) with a single non-interactive program which cycles alternatingly in Chinese and English versions.
photo img_0373a
Like in the Finnair A330 geovision, the position of the aircraft was regularly masked by loosely related tourist pictures. (“This is what you could see in the location we hide from you” seems to be the message there)
photo img_0372a
With a geovision designed in the 2010’s, i.e. with interactivity, I would have identified Lake Constance immediately
photo img_0377a
Friedrichshafen Airport (FDH) is in the center of this picture, partly hidden by clouds
photo img_0374b
Konstanz, on the German side of the border with Switzerland, nearly entirely on the right bank of the Rhine river which flows into the Untersee at the far left of the picture.
photo img_0378a
Let4s go back to the meal service : the FAs wore an apron to protect their uniform. They were many for handling the J cabin : I once counted seven FAs simultaneously present in my front J cabin!
photo img_0379a
The trolley was covered by a decorative cloth
photo img_0381a
A glass of water (because I did not want to drink anything else – I actually drank both plain and sparkling water), on the table cloth, with the napkin containing the silverware
photo img_0382a
This was the silverware, but since the FAs would take them away at the end of each course, I eventually used four fork and knife sets.
photo img_0386a
The accessories : bread, butter (listed as being from Isigny, a renowned dairy town in Normandy), salad dressing with balsamic vinegar, salt and pepper.
photo img_0384a
Mayonnaise Crab Cake
There was some more to eat there, which I liked better than the previous course.
photo img_0385a
I chose another piece of bread from the basket offered by a FA who then placed it upside down in this cup whose shape was unfit to the purpose (it took her several tries, but try doing it yourself, with handling clamps a meter away from the cup)
photo img_0388a
Placing bread upside down is an old no-no in French dining etiquette and I put it back into the correct position the minute the FA had left. (In medieval times, the executioner’s bread was baked separately and identified this way). If they do it again on the flight back, I’ll remember to improve their cultural know-how and tell them.
photo img_0389a
The airshow displays the great circle route which is unrelated with the actual route of this flight which passes south of the Himalaya.
photo img_0387a
We were now around there
photo img_0397a
… and there came a brief snowy Austrian mountains landscape though a break in the cloud cover

Ginger and Carrot Soup (and some croutons)
photo img_0398a
The plate is large, but it has been designed to contain little, but the soup is anyway not the main dish, only a pleasant intermediate course.
photo img_0399a
Mixed Salad Served with Balsamic Artichoke Dressing
(the other option was Whisky Cocktail Dressing).
There was too much mozzarella for me.
photo img_0400a
Now I reached the dish I had booked in advance and was not part of the standard catering available on board :
Spicy Scallops in Royal Style Served with Steamed Rice
In the world of Chinese gastronomy, the word "spicy" should be treated with respect. I am quite invulnerable in this regard, this dish was another proof of it, but I know people who would have had problems finishing it.
photo img_0403a
The offering of cheese, fruit, ice creams and other desserts, on the trolley that the FAs kindly pushed back to help me take this picture.
photo img_0405a
I chose a simple plate of fruit. It is very chic to spend lots of time dining, and this meal lasted 80 minutes according to my pictures’ time stamping, which was double the amount of time it deserved. It seemed that the duration was stretched to ease the boredom of the passengers (especially if they relied on the IFE’s offering), but I spent a total of 40 minutes using my laptop between each course, using to my advantage the size of the table tray to make space for it.
photo img_0406a
The FAs distributed a 50cl bottle of water to each at the end of the meal
photo img_0407a
A reader of a previous report explained to me that bottles of water on board could be part of the leftover ones from another unrelated flight and therefore be eventually used halfway across the planet. It’s fair to assume that Flight BR87 from Taipei had few Business class passengers on January 1st, but the labelling betrays the fact that this Taiwanese water company procured this drink water from Fiji Island. Granted, the Taiwanese famers sometimes complain about a season too dry for crops selected for their need for water, but whoever tries to convince me that Taiwan has a drink water supply problem will fight an uphill battle (hills are really very humid mountains in Taiwan).
photo img_0408a
Eva Air communication department requests their passengers to not waste the supplies in the toilets to protect our environment, but I wish they talked with their purchasing department on this issue.
(You would probably write it as a request rather than a statement in English: they chose a literal translation from the original Chinese)
photo img_0411a
This is a sample of the said supplies : the one that I used several times like most Eva Air passengers to help the environment.
photo img_0418a
And these which I only took out for the purpose of the environment, putting them back into place thereafter to help the environment (Eva Air doesn’t say if most of their passengers do that too). There were also wrapped oshiboris.
photo img_0419a
Soap and others
photo img_0416a
The toilets at the rear of the first J cabin are much large than the ones in the AF A32x that I was used it : over 1.30 m wide, which makes it possible to have a full door opening outward instead of the folding door opening inward.
photo img_0409a
There is no female pictogram on the child care fold down table
photo img_0412a
It uses all 90 cm of depth of the toilets and folds on top of the toilet seat, hidden below right here.
photo img_0413a
I found the fake wood floor more pleasant than the typical non-slip surfaces which are more usual there.
photo img_0417a
A pretty floral decoration, made double by the mirror
photo img_0420a
Wham ! a bid bag of rubbish fell and spilled some of its contents on the floor. Nobody is perfect !
photo img_0421a
Let’s charitably turn our back on this mishap and look at the cabin from the rear.
photo img_0422a
Damn… if the window had been closer to my seat, I would have seen this Turkish Airlines 77W flying in the opposite direction sooner, and had time to zoom more on it. This was IST-JFK Flight TK1, operated by TC-JJG
photo img_0424a
Drinks and food items for self-service in the galley
photo img_0431aphoto img_0432a
Night has arrived, revealing the starry ceiling which would be turned off later.
photo img_0433a
The time had come to take some rest. The seat is full flat.
photo img_0434a
I did not sleep for a long time – two and half hours only – because I was too hot.
We are only there into the flight, in Chinese version
photo img_0435a
… and in English version
photo img_0440a
… with an intermediate corporate ad which reduced by the corresponding time the duration of display of the moving map.
photo img_0443a
A FA proposed a menu of various items ; I chose one somewhat at random
photo img_0436a
This was supposed to be the Mini Chicken Burger
photo img_0441a
The captain tended to forget switching off the « fasten seatbelts » sign, long after leaving an area of turbulences.
photo img_0446a
This did not stop the passengers from using the toilets
photo img_0447a
Turbulences are at last over officially !
photo img_0448a
I then took a nap for another two and half hours and was gently awaken by a FA for breakfast (the FA had asked at the beginning of the flight if I wanted to be awaken for meals).We had entered the Chinese airspace in the south of Yunnan.
photo img_0451a
You remember that I had chosen Plain Chinese Congee for breakfast. Congee is strictly speaking this : a soup of overcooked rice, not the most attractive dish you could think of.
photo img_0457a
Of course, it all depends on the ingredients that you add to it. There is nothing more Taiwanese than filaments of dried pork meat (below left, to be mixed with the congee, because you could easily choke if you ate it alone. Tofu skin 豆腐皮 (right)also belongs to my favorite ingredients.
photo img_0456a
This was actually the quintessential Taiwanese breakfast, the kind that helps you climb mountains from my local experience.
photo img_0453a
Some omelet and meat
photo img_0458a
Fruits come thereafter
photo img_0460a
It was nearly a sacrilege to drink coffee with this breakfast, all the more that my readers may remember that there is nothing worse than bad Taiwanese coffee (I had forgotten this detail).
photo img_0449a
I really liked the pattern of this tablecloth, a welcome change from the usual white cotton tablecloth. The fabric slips easily on the table tray, but any plate placed on it will keep it in place. The rotational symmetry of the pattern allows the FA to not align it precisely: this and that makes it fast to put in place while being attractive : this is a neatly designed accessory.
photo img_0461a
I liked this pair of chopsticks too.
photo img_0459a
A welcome oshibori after the coffee which was not a very good choice (but the breakfast was very tasty)
photo img_0462a
A little walk around to discover the small front right galley (the space on the left is the access to the cockpit, and there is a toilet too).
photo img_0463a
The door from the inside
photo img_0464a
The airmap, overlaid on a satellite picture of the Earth at night, now shows the nearly entire actual route. It seems nearly straight on such a flat map, but it is nowhere near the great circle hypothetical trajectory.
photo img_0467a
We’ll fly above 香港 ([xiānggǎng], in Mandarin)
photo img_0470a
… that Westerners know under a name derived from the Cantonese pronunciation : Hong-Kong.
photo img_0471a
Well to the north of the route, Shaoguan that my readers know from reading the bonus of the report of this CAN-HAK report (and if you haven’t read it, feel free to read, like and comment ;)
photo img_0473a

But under the plane, it’s Hong-Kong, and more precisely Yuen Long 元朗
photo img_0475a
The dark area in the center is Tai Mo Shan Mountain 大帽山
photo img_0477a
Shatin 沙田 in the foreground, and Taipo大埔, in the background left. Only passengers at the right hand side windows could see the center of Hong-Kongphoto img_0478a
From there, the route went due east to get way from the Chinese coast and then headed to TPE.
photo img_0481a
The standard announcement 30 minutes before landing was nearly unintelligible like all other announcement from the cockpit (the sound level of the P.A. system was very low).
The same message is displayed on the IFE screen in English, in Chinese in traditional characters in use in Taiwan and Hong-Kong and in simplified characters in use in Mainland China and Singapore, and in Japanese, the latter version taking by far the most space on the screen.
photo img_0486a
Light came back in the cabin
photo img_0488a
The IFE screen displays a reminder of the various food products which cannot be imported by private individuals for sanitary reasons : basically any meat, raw or cooked, and any uncooked fruit and vegetable.
photo img_0489a
The illegal import of a durian (the spiny round shape on top of the luggage cart) could cost you a minimum fine of 3000 TWD, but there is no mention of a maximum.
photo img_0490a
These are all the sweets that I took before landing… in picture only.
photo img_0494a
Sunrise above the mountains to the right of the aircraft
photo img_0495a
Descent above the plain of northwest Taiwan
photo img_0501a
The ponds of Taoyuan illustrate two and a half centuries of agricultural development of this originally poorly fertile plain. The Taiwanese trace it from the digging of Saoli canal in 1741, with four ponds, serving six farms. The massive immigration from the mainland caused the multiplication of these ponds used for fish farming: there were close to 9,000 of them in the 70’s. The industrialization of the region caused the drainage of a majority of them, but there are still over 3,000. Aerators betray the ones which are still used for fish farming.
photo img_0503aphoto img_0505a
We have landed at Taipei Taoyuan International Airport
photo img_0511a
Heavy braking on the runway, and a longish wait on a taxiway there
photo img_0523a
…and again there behind a Tigerair aircraft.
photo img_0535a
There was no explanation, but I guess that the gate was not ready yet, for us and for the Tigerair plane.
photo img_0533a
My best shot of the row of parked Tigerair Taiwan A320s
photo img_0524a
Eva Air A321 parked remotely
photo img_0529a
I hope they still have some space for us ?
photo img_0536a
I could not take a better picture of this Nokscoot 777, due to the adverse lighting conditions ; I did not know this joint venture between Nok Air and Scoot.
photo img_0539a
Philippines Airlines A321
photo img_0543a
JAL 737 which would have needed more light in order for a sharp picture
photo img_0545a
Malaysian Airlines 737 in vintage livery
photo img_0547a
Air Macau A321
photo img_0548a
This Far Eastern Air Transport MD-80 is an old friend : see the report of flights flown with her here and there.
photo img_0549a
It was already six years ago… it was the time when Far Eastern Air was recovering from a three year bankruptcy and the safety of their old MD80 was a concern, compared to the more reassuring ATR72s of Transasia Airways. You probably know what happened next.
photo p1140060a
B-22810, spotted here in November 2012 in TSA, 20 months before she crashed while attempting to land in MZG in bad weather conditions, killing 48 out of 58 people on board

Back to this flight ; in this lineup of BR aircraft, which one is the odd character out ?
photo img_0551a
No, it is not this A321 in Hello Kitty livery, but the Hong Kong Airlines A330 just behind
photo img_0554a
There was a lot of room for multilingual welcome messages because we seemed to have arrived at the gate furthest away from the immigration.
photo img_0555a
It’s a long way to Taiwan
photo img_0556a
.. and to its immigration counters
photo img_0558a
I’ll be fair : the waiting time at immigration was zero, and I went through like a breeze. The policeman was kind enough to stamp my passport on an already crowded page, not wasting a blank page which could be useful later for a full page visa.
photo img_0560a
Going down to the luggage delivery
photo img_0561a
The priorities were respected and the first suitcases were already arriving ; mine appeared two minutes later.
photo img_0562a
It did not give me much time to look at this decoration in this room.
photo img_0563a
I now only needed to exchange a little cash (contrary to foreign exchange counters in many other airports, those of TPE and TSA have very reasonable commissions), and find out in my stored value Easycards which one had enough leftover credit to ride the semi-direct train to the airport.
photo img_0565a
The Taoyuan airport line opened after years of delay; it is brand new.
photo img_0566a
A FIDS in the subway car ; I used the on board wifi internet access to check the messages received during the flight.
photo img_0567a
There are multistandard ports for charging your cell phone or any other USB-compatible electronic device.
photo img_0591a
Last sight of TPE
photo img_0570a
This new subway line makes the 1818 Kuo-Kuang buses which I used before obsolete: at 160 TWD, the fare is marginally more expensive than the bus (but nevertheless very cheap compared to similar lines serving airports in many other countries) , but the comfort is much better and the ride is immune from traffic jams, like these caused by commuters driving to Taipei.
photo img_0571aphoto img_0585a
This former anabranch of the Danshui river is a floodplain: Taipei is at the convergence of three rivers concentrating the rainwater from an extensive drainage basin. There are no buildings there, only light sport facilities and parking lots which can withstand exceptional submersion with limited damage, vegetation and bicycle / pedestrian lanes.
photo img_0579aphoto img_0581a
The Xinbei (= New Taipei City) viaduct crosses this landscape at low elevation with very long spans designed to reduce the number of pillars which would hamper the flow of water and require deep foundations.
photo img_0588aphoto img_0590a
Arrival in a completely new section of the transportation hub of Taipei’s Central station. I saw a sign for in-town check-in, worth having a look on the way back.
photo img_0593a
The central station main building was built in 1989 in a traditional temple look, but looks old-fashioned now. The station is now considerably larger underground.
photo img_0594a
The mountains are never far away in Taipei.
photo img_0595a
Happy new year ; enjoy your flights in 2018 !

PS : this FR is long enough to allow me to skip a Taiwanese bonus. You will find many such tourist bonuses in my previous reports of flights to/from TPE and TSA; you are welcome to read, like and comment them ! ;)
See more

Verdict

EVA Air

7.9/10
Cabin6.0
Cabin crew10.0
Entertainment6.5
Meal/catering9.0

Star Alliance Lounge

7.1/10
Comfort7.0
Meal/catering6.5
Entertainment7.0
Services8.0

Paris - CDG

8.9/10
Efficiency10.0
Access7.5
Services8.0
Cleanliness10.0

Taipei - TPE

9.8/10
Efficiency10.0
Access10.0
Services9.0
Cleanliness10.0

Conclusion

The excessive distance between seat and windows is for me a killer error in the design of this cabin: in order to have a good view of the landscape, you must fold at least partly the tray table and stand up from your seat, which is inacceptable for me, and impossible in some portions of the flight. Full access to the aisle is highly valued by a majority of passengers but not by me: I actually never really feel the need to leave my seat on a long distance flight, in Economy or Business class. I disregard the fact that you need to sit in the center if you want to communicate with another travel (I always travel alone in J). In short, I simply dislike herringbone / reverse herringbone seat layouts, and value straight rows of seats, even at the expense of accessibility.
In lie-flat position, the seat was long enough for me (my size does not make it a commendable feat^^)

Entertainment is the other weak point of this cabin. The screen is too far from the seat to be used in touchscreen mode comfortably, the game offering is limited and the non-interactive moving map is not only outdated but seldom provides the desired information when you want it. It did not really look at the audio/video offering.

With the handicap of this disappointing hard product, the soft product is what saves BR. The diversity of the meal offering and the possibility to book one in advance mean that you are more or less guaranteed to have a meal to your liking. The FAs are top class: I enjoyed their smiling courtesy and the balance between efficiency and discretion. My only regret is that the service protocol makes the meal last too long, and I degraded the meal rating slightly for that reason.

I did not expect much from a lounge in CDG1 due to the cramped and outdated architecture of this building, and I was not surprised. This lounge offers zero view on the tarmac and you can see the daylight only through ugly safety nets, giving the impression that passengers should be no means be aware of the presence of planes around. Maintenance of the facilities is inadequate: you can have a failed equipment which is identified as such because no repair can be instantaneous, but two sets of unserviceable power ports and two independent problems in the toilets total to obvious negligence. Actually, I did not have the impression that mentioning the failed power port to the welcome staff interested her. The buffet was decent for a late breakfast, but nothing more; The only adequate criterions were the internet access and the printed media.

It was not a peak travel day in CDG, far from it: accessibility and check-in had favorable conditions. But even on that low traffic day, the taxi drop off lane was saturated.

Zero waiting time at the immigration in TPE and at the luggage delivery, partly because there was a lot of walking to reach it. The semi-direct subway to the city center is a game changer: it is fast, comfortable, hardly more expensive than the buses and very cheap by international standards (like Taipei’s metro, in general). Furthermore, the ride on tall viaducts provides much more interesting views than in a bus or a taxi. I did not have time to check if there was internet access in the airport, but there was one in the train.

Informations on the route Paris (CDG) Taipei (TPE)

The contributors of Flight-Report published 3 reviews of 1 airlines on the route Paris (CDG) → Taipei (TPE).


Useful

The airline with the best average grade is EVA Air with 7.8/10.

The average flight time is 12 hours and 41 minutes.

  More informations

24 Comments

  • Comment 426201 by
    jetsetpanda SILVER 2230 Comments

    Hello Francois. Happy 2018 and thank you for sharing this FR.

    Overall BR offers a solid J product and I am one of those that find the "all aisle access seats" a big plus. Too bad that the window seats are too far from the window to get a good view while seated. After all, those who prefer these seats do so for a reason.

    Catering looks great and I love that BR does not follow the trend to have everything white, from tablecloth to dinnerware. A bit of individuality sets them apart and it's a good thing that not everything has to be cut by the same cookie cutter.

    I appreciate your cultural perspective about serving the bread upside down. Your FR's always have an insightful note that serves to enlighten your audience. ;)

    Merci.

    • Comment 426206 by
      marathon GOLD AUTHOR 8383 Comments

      Hello Adan,

      It's a good thing that cabin arrangements change from airline to airline, since not all travelers have the same requirements and you can't possibly have different seat layouts in a given plane. On the other hand, airlines can choose to offer a wide variety of meals (at least in business/first class); BR does just that, which I enjoy, because tastes differ.

      Readers of the French version of this report pointed out at a large number of details which created the overall refined impression that I felt but could not really explain; likewise, I could not explain clearly why I found the FAs top-notch.

      You were among the first readers; please accept my apologies for the excessive number of typos, spurious italics, etc. that I keep finding and fixing after the initial posting.

      Happy New Year 2018 and thanks for your comment !

      • Comment 426374 by
        jetsetpanda SILVER 2230 Comments

        "I could not explain clearly why I found the FAs top-notch."
        - The French readers clearly pointed out a number of details as you said but allow me to add one more from my perspective. Perhaps the FA's made a favorable impression subconsciously. We all like to be pampered deep down inside, even if there are some of us who view gestures like kneeling in front of customers as subservient and demeaning.

        In addition the army of FA's aboard, the number of meal choices and effusive service, especially the changing of eating utensils after each course contribute to leave a lasting impression of being pampered generously. Group all of these factors together and get the "Wow" effect. :O

        "please accept my apologies for the excessive number of typos, spurious italics, etc. that I keep finding and fixing after the initial posting."
        - I did not notice any. ;)

        • Comment 426697 by
          marathon GOLD AUTHOR 8383 Comments

          “We all like to be pampered deep down inside, even if there are some of us who view gestures like kneeling in front of customers as subservient and demeaning.”

          - I have acquired enough Far-East culture after years of living there to not share the “subservient and demeaning” Western misconception. What was probably subconscious was that I recognized in these FAs the cultural codes that I am familiar with, which gave me a “welcome back home” feeling. And yes, “wow factor” is the adequate expression

  • Comment 426253 by
    ashleyyau 194 Comments

    Thanks Marathon for sharing this great report! I am very enjoyed it!

    “AF has obviously abandoned the idea of selling flights to TPE”
    - They finally resume it this year and glad to see more intl liveries come to TPE

    The *A Lounge looks pathetic compared with the others, but I am very happy that it has a smoking rooftop!
    Nice to the BR refreshed J services with new safety video, new uniform, new tablecloth and new menu! But I am surprised they do not have the French menu. Also the seat is as poor as CX which is far from the windows. CI’s J is better there.
    The catering is very good which totally beat CX. I am impressed with having 7 FAs served the J cabin. I only spotted 2 FAs doing meal service in my main CX J cabin.
    Very nice aerial view of my city! Form your report BR products and services are very solid. MileagePlus has tons of BR J availability and I should redeem for it in the future.
    Bonne Année 2018!

    • Comment 426366 by
      marathon GOLD AUTHOR 8383 Comments

      Dismantling CDG Terminal 1, due to its outdated layout, was seriously considered a few years ago. Now the plan is to connect the three satellites dedicated to Non-Schengen flights, vastly increasing the amount of airside space for their passengers. It’s not expected before 2020. The facilities (including the lounges) will keep being a shame until then, and I expect them to nevertheless be below modern standards when the work is completed.

      Haha, readers of the French version of this report did not comment of the absence of a menu in French ! (I wonder if the obnoxiously loud lady seated in 5G complained…)

      I take good note of the better seat (in my perspective) of CI, should I need another business trip to TPE, which is far from being granted. The drawback of flying CI is that this requires an uncomfortably early flight out of CDG in order to connect with one of their direct flights from Europe.

      I was impressed by the diversity of the choices of meals, and was pleased with the ones I selected. It happened only once in the flight, but the aisles were really crowded with trolleys and FAs when I counted the latter.

      Recognizing a city at night is usually very difficult if it has a lot of forest and/or water, but I am familiar with the Shatin River which gave me the key clue.

      Readers’ comments are a reward for the time spent translating the original report . Thanks !

  • Comment 426336 by
    eminere™ 261 Comments

    Oh Marathon! I’ve missed you and your excellent reports!

    • Comment 426368 by
      marathon GOLD AUTHOR 8383 Comments

      Oh Eminere™! I've missed you and your comments on the fine art of protecting bread from germs ! :)
      (Posting weekly reports, mostly in French, on CDG-ARN shuttles in Economy last year did not help drawing your attention...)
      Thanks for stopping by !

  • Comment 426386 by
    NGO85 1627 Comments

    Merci Francois,

    I couldn't help but think of your fabled CX flight HKG-CDG in the reverse herringbone seats when reading this report^^

    BR catering looks strong based on menu selection and presentation, but I feel like the main was not well presented at all. Bok choy and mushroom portion also seem small for the main. Congee for the pre-arrival meal looks like the safe and sensible choice.

    “It seemed that the duration was stretched to ease the boredom of the passengers (especially if they relied on the IFE’s offering)” ==> Very eloquently put^^

    “I liked this pair of chopsticks too.” ==> I always thought metal chopsticks was more of a Korean thing.

    “in Japanese, the latter version taking by far the most space on the screen.” ==> over half of which is for formality^^

    “The Taoyuan airport line opened after years of delay; it is brand new.” => I still prefer those wild shuttle bus rides clinging to your suitcase in your arms to the HSR station^^

    “The excessive distance between seat and windows is for me a killer error in the design of this cabin”
    - Can’t agree more, but this is not a phenomena limited to herringbone seats. It’s also present in many other types of J-cabins, especially those involving the so-called “throne” seats. At the end of the day, it’s the airline’s goal to squeeze in as many J seats as possible while maximizing space/privacy and these all rely on sacrificing the proximity of seats to windows. Perhaps you should have re-ignited your love affair with KE to get a better J product with window access ;)

    • Comment 426500 by
      marathon GOLD AUTHOR 8383 Comments

      “I couldn't help but think of your fabled CX flight HKG-CDG in the reverse herringbone seats when reading this report^^”
      - The herringbone is not what I like best in a fish ^^

      “BR catering looks strong based on menu selection and presentation, but I feel like the main was not well presented at all. Bok choy and mushroom portion also seem small for the main. Congee for the pre-arrival meal looks like the safe and sensible choice.”
      - I am definitely no presentation expert, but readers of the French version of this report agreed with you. (Incidentally, your and their comments justify the insistence of Flight Report for documenting the stories with pictures : they allow some readers to see what the traveler had missed. )
      With the caveat that I had a pre-boarding breakfast in the lounge, the amount of food served on board was well enough for me.

      “ I always thought metal chopsticks was more of a Korean thing.”
      - The Taiwanese use the Japanese kind of chopsticks with a round section. They should be made of lacquered wood, but I guess that metal allows washing without handling care.

      “in Japanese, the latter version taking by far the most space on the screen, over half of which is for formality”
      - It would be indeed considerably shorter if said by a parent to his child.

      “I still prefer those wild shuttle bus rides clinging to your suitcase in your arms to the HSR station”
      - That bus ride was short enough to be reliable – Mrs Marathon once missed her flight home to Paris because Bus 1819 from Taipei's Main station broke down on the expressway, leaving us clinging to her luggage on the emergency lane while endlessly waiting for a rescue bus.

      “This is not a phenomena limited to herringbone seats. It’s also present in many other types of J-cabins, especially those involving the so-called “throne” seats.”
      - Coincidentally, I just commented upon that in an excellent DUB-IAD report (I cannot rate other than “excellent” a report posted by an administrator of the website, especially if he also comments my own report ^^)

      “Perhaps you should have re-ignited your love affair with KE to get a better J product with window access ;)”
      - I would call it a love-hate relationship ;)

      Thanks for your comments !

  • Comment 426495 by
    KévinDC TEAM 4154 Comments

    I definitely know how you feel about having to contort to take photos out of the window in these types of configurations. Alas, we AvGeeks are a tiny minority of J flyers. I do love a 1-2-1 configuration when flying solo, but, like you mention, I don't like having to select the middle two when travelling as a couple. Generally I try to pick the airline/aircraft (within alliance and budget) that best suits my needs: An aircraft with solo seats when flying for business (or just alone), and aircraft with 2-seaters by the windows when flying as a couple, which usually means BA for me. This is not always easy to do and I wish there were more aircraft that had both seating options within the same cabin. Yes, I want to have my cake and eat it too! I know it's impossible to tailor a J cabin to cater to an exact balance of solo travellers and couples/leisure travellers, but I appreciate configurations like Aer Lingus' where both options are present. Throne seats for those travelling alone (which I love, though it is a bit hard to look out the window), and sets of 2 seats by the window when travelling as a couple. Personally, I can usually see OK from a Thompson Vantage throne type seat or a Zodiac Cirrus/ B/E Super Diamond like in this report; the one configuration I absolutely cannot stand are the older style aisle-facing herringbone configuration.

    With regards to the on board service, the catering looks fantastic. I want Chinese food now ^^

    "She also talked to the FAs exclusively in French, demanding U-NE FOUR-CHET-TE ! "
    - HAH! Love this. Because of course everyone knows that is you enunciate every syllable, the person to whom you are speaking will instantly understand. Who knew learning a new language was so easy!?!? Ah...some people...

    Thank you for starting out the year with this lovely report et Bonne Année !

    • Comment 426694 by
      marathon GOLD AUTHOR 8383 Comments

      I would not change a comma in your authoritative essay on window seats in business class.
      I use to write that you don’t fly for the dining experience, but BR may be an exception.
      Sitting in 5D would have ruined my flight experience : no window and THAT neighbor !
      Thanks for your comment; happy new year (again) !

  • Comment 426856 by
    Razza_Pr 203 Comments

    Greetings, Marathon. Welcome back to the Anglophone-side of the website, and thank you for this FR :D.

    “Matrix suggested this array of routings: the mandate of my company’s travel agency is to privilege direct flights, but there is room for negotiation if a non-direct flight is cheaper.”
    - I didn’t know BR had nonstop flights to the EU. I had assumed all their EU-bound flights have a BKK stopover!

    “There again, I only needed to go on BR’s website to find a much more detailed information”
    - Wow, I hadn’t known BR offered something similar to Book the Cook.

    “It is a window seat, and even a two window seat, but it is unfortunately very far from these windows, further from them than if I had been sitting in a middle seat in Economy.”
    - This right here is why I’m not the biggest fan of reverse herringbone seats. I booked window seats for a reason, darn it! Also: CX & BR have pretty much identical seats in different colours for their flagship business class. Will either airline refurbish and install new seats in the future, I wonder?

    “Now I reached the dish I had booked in advance and was not part of the standard catering available on board”
    - Important question: did they deliver it to you personally, or did it come off the meal cart along with any other special meals specified to each seat?

    “There is no female pictogram on the child care fold down table”
    - Neither is there a pictogram of a baby in diapers, though?

    “Damn… if the window had been closer to my seat, I would have seen this Turkish Airlines 77W flying in the opposite direction sooner, and had time to zoom more on it.”
    - Great catch! Sights like these are incredibly common for transatlantic hops. So that’s about 3 days from now..

    “The illegal import of a durian (the spiny round shape on top of the luggage cart) could cost you a minimum fine of 3000 TWD, but there is no mention of a maximum.”
    - If it were up to me I’d have added at least three more zeroes behind the original fine. Big fan of tropical fruits, but Durian is a crime against humanity(’s sense of smell)!

    I’m somewhat surprised as to why you didn’t choose to route via Amsterdam and take CI instead, sampling their hot new A359 in the process?

    Lovely snippets of Taipei in the end. Hope your time there was well-spent!

    Well wishes, and thank you for this FR. Cheers!

    • Comment 426878 by
      marathon GOLD AUTHOR 8383 Comments

      “Welcome back to the Anglophone-side of the website, and thank you for this FR.”
      - I wanted to share with all the pleasure of flying back to Taiwan ;)

      “I didn’t know BR had nonstop flights to the EU. I had assumed all their EU-bound flights have a BKK stopover! “
      - CDG is their only non-stop EU destination, which made this flight more interesting, and faster too.

      “Wow, I hadn’t known BR offered something similar to Book the Cook. “
      - I did not either; this was a welcome surprise.

      “This right here is why I’m not the biggest fan of reverse herringbone seats. “
      - Welcome to the club of travelers who believe a herringbone belongs to a trash can, no matter the context ;)

      “Important question: did they deliver (the booked meal) to you personally, or did it come off the meal cart along with any other special meals specified to each seat?
      - Gee, I had not realized this could be an important detail to some readers. I’ll try to be more attentive on the way back.

      “There is no (…) pictogram of a baby in diapers, though?
      - Maybe because Taiwanese parents do not need to be reminded of the need to change their baby’s diapers some time during the flight, unlike Western mothers ;)

      “Sights like these are incredibly common for transatlantic hops.”
      - I should have guessed so, looking at Flightradar24’s record of the traffic over the Atlantic.

      “If it were up to me I’d have added at least three more zeroes behind the original fine. Big fan of tropical fruits, but Durian is a crime against humanity(’s sense of smell)!”
      - I wonder if anybody ever tried to import surreptitiously a durian ?

      “I’m somewhat surprised as to why you didn’t choose to route via Amsterdam and take CI instead, sampling their hot new A359 in the process? “
      - Catching the CI flight out of AMS required taking a much earlier CDG-AMS flight, after reaching home late the day before.

      “Lovely snippets of Taipei in the end. “
      - There should be a tourist bonus added to the report of the return flight. Stay tuned !

      “Hope your time there was well-spent!”
      - The first day of work alone justified going there... and I get to meet local friends outside working hours, too :)

      “Well wishes, and thank you for this FR. Cheers!”
      - Thanks for your long comment. Cheers !

  • Comment 427095 by
    Rewardflying GOLD 351 Comments

    Hi Marathon. Great report! Thanks for posting it for us west of you. I flew EVA Hello Kitty awhile back on the CDG-TPE route. It's posted on F/R english side. You probably didn't see it. Anyway I bring it up because of:

    >The first two choices for breakfast have already been praised by Flight Reporters, so I could only choose the Chinese Plain Congee, a quintessential local breakfast. Note that Eva Air also provides a facility to be warned in case a preselected meal not available.
    -My favorite all time airline breakfast remains EVA's french toast. You have to try it next time!!!

    Thanks again.

    • Comment 427164 by
      marathon GOLD AUTHOR 8383 Comments

      I had seen your report - there are very few reports on Eva Air's European flights in either language. Thanks for the breakfast suggestion; alas, French toast is no longer offered for breakfast, and time of writing this, I have not made up my choice yet. I take it as a good point for Eva Air to not offer the same meal two years later, though.

      There will be an English version of the report of the return flight; thanks for commenting this one !

  • Comment 427242 by
    Rl 777 805 Comments

    Thank you for sharing this incredibly comprehensive FR with us!

    It definitely felt odd not translating anything while going through the FR ;).

    “For plane spotting landside, the place to be is the Arrivals level“
    - Good to know. Btw, great spotting shots!

    “Long walk on a travellator under the tarmac to Satellite 5.“
    - Interesting design of the pathway.

    “neat Rimowa semi-rigid mini case.“
    - Creative.

    “I would have seen this Turkish Airlines 77W flying in the opposite direction sooner“
    -Still a great catch IMO, well done.

    Nice aerials!

    “I hope they still have some space for us ?“
    - Wouldn't be surprised if the HX A333 felt like an intruder at the time.

    Great spotting shots at TPE!

    “There was a lot of room for multilingual welcome messages“
    - Even in Swedish (Välkommen)? I did not expect that one.

    “.. and to its immigration counters“
    - Nice to include the actual distance to the counters.

    “it is brand new.“
    - It shows!

    Thanks for the nice pictures while travelling on the subway.

    Have a good one, see you.

    • Comment 427356 by
      marathon GOLD AUTHOR 8383 Comments

      “Thank you for sharing this incredibly comprehensive FR with us!”
      - Incredibly long to scroll through, too ;)

      “It definitely felt odd not translating anything while going through the FR ;). “
      - Was this text any better than your favorite translator ?

      “Good to know (that for plane spotting landside, the place to be is the Arrivals level)”.
      - I mention this because I believe that plane spotting is usually a Departure activity. Remember it in case you fly SAS to CDG in the future (they are at Terminal 1)!

      “Interesting design of the pathway to Satellite 5”
      - The hub and satellite architecture of Terminal 1, designed in the mid-60s, results into cramped space everywhere. It was a wrong design.

      “Still a great catch of this Turkish Airlines 77W”
      - She was mercifully at the optimum distance : far enough to give me time to take the picture, close enough to get a decent shot.

      “Wouldn't be surprised if the HX A333 felt like an intruder at the time.”
      - Indeed !

      “A welcome messages even in Swedish (Välkommen)? I did not expect that one.”
      - I wonder how many visitors per year are targeted by this language ;)

      “Nice to include the actual distance to the counters”
      - I think it is a good idea

      “It shows that the airport subway is brand new!”
      - Most of my Taiwanese colleagues have not had a chance to use it yet.

      Thanks for your comment !

  • Comment 427361 by
    dreamweaver888 40 Comments

    What a wonderful trip report, wonderful J product from BR! Thanks.

  • Comment 428895 by
    okapi GOLD 1654 Comments

    Coming in late for this, sorry. Better than never.
    Quite funny reading both versions. A fully detailed report as usual with some decent spotting given the limited viewing opportunities at CDG in general. As detailed as the menu items available pre-flight. Wish all airlines did that. Options are just so many, almost makes me feel like trying to fly J once in a while. Lucky arrival at CDG for once.
    "An AF A340 is towed to an unknown destination " -> the wonderful world of Joon might well be its next stop
    The lounge is fine actually. Ok, no proper outside view but I do find it roomy enough. The breakfast opportunities are not that bad with this gluten-free muesli box not to be found at AF's lounges anyway. A shame power supply is still not considered a priority in airport spaces.
    "these plugs are for decorative purposes only." -> Yeah, who needs power nowadays, come on!
    "A selection of newspapers in ideograms, but there is Le Figaro (France) at the far end." -> could it be reflective of the actual confused political fence?
    No matter how nicely decorated this J cabin might be, I am not a fan of such a displaced fake window seat. Maybe J passengers don't care much about the world outside but I still do.
    A very nice meal, on a slow-mo mood. Wonder if it takes that long to have dinner on night flights. No printed menu in French? How strange although you had a full choice on the website. The remainder of the flight allows plenty
    "The illegal import of a durian (the spiny round shape on top of the luggage cart) could cost you a minimum fine of 3000 TWD, but there is no mention of a maximum." -> Love how "shame" is being depicted in this pictogram. Wonder if the offender is more ashamed by the smell of durian or the fine itself.
    Thanks for sharing this trip.

    • Comment 429018 by
      marathon GOLD AUTHOR 8383 Comments

      “Coming in late for this, sorry. Better than never.”
      - Your other comments on much older reports are equally welcome ;)

      “Quite funny reading both versions. “
      - Some of my English FRs are not strict translations of the French original (and some versions have been originally posted in English)

      “Options (for the dinner) are just so many, almost makes me feel like trying to fly J once in a while. “
      - It feels like suggesting another trip to Taiwan to me ;)

      “Lucky arrival at CDG for once.”
      - I seldom travel on a time/day when nobody travels, unfortunately

      "An AF A340 is towed to an unknown destination -> the wonderful world of Joon might well be its next stop”
      - Better than being ferried on a final flight to LDE like many other A340s.

      “The lounge is fine actually. Ok, no proper outside view but I do find it roomy enough.”
      - Well enough space indeed, but I dislike the absence of natural sunlight, even on winter days when there is little of it.

      “The breakfast opportunities are not that bad with this gluten-free muesli box not to be found at AF's lounges anyway. “
      - The gluten-free option is not a requirement for me, but worth noting

      “A shame power supply is still not considered a priority in airport spaces. (…)Yeah, who needs power nowadays, come on! “
      - I remember the times when I traveled with two spare laptop batteries to make it on a CDG-PEK flight in J. Now, your standard laptop battery provides two to three times more autonomy, and no self-respecting airline would dare not provide at seat power in J.

      "A selection of newspapers in ideograms, but there is Le Figaro (France) at the far end." -> could it be reflective of the actual confused political fence?”
      - Could recently deceased Jean d’Ormession have imagined the newspaper he directed being located far left ?

      No matter how nicely decorated this J cabin might be, I am not a fan of such a displaced fake window seat. Maybe J passengers don't care much about the world outside but I still do.
      - You certainly got the message that I fully agree with you

      “A very nice meal, on a slow-mo mood. Wonder if it takes that long to have dinner on night flights. “
      - The answer will be in the report of the return flight

      “No printed menu in French? “
      - I wonder how the noisy French woman managed !

      “Love how "shame" is being depicted in this durian pictogram. Wonder if the offender is more ashamed by the smell of durian or the fine itself.”
      - I can testify that buying and bringing home a durian in Taipei has no such effect.

      Thanks for your comments !

Login to post a comment.