Review of American Airlines flight from New York to Phoenix in Business

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AA - American Airlines

Flight taken on 27 January 2024
AA1487
08:55 05h 20m 12:15
Class Business
Seat 7L
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Intro


The second to last portion of my great adventure across Asia would see me heading back to California. However, seeing as I had already flown the A321T in all classes, Jetblue Mint, United Polaris, and Delta One, I figured it was time to try out the old 777-200 Business Class on American Airlines from New York to Phoenix (later to John Wayne). Combining that with a 4500$ credit I had on American Airlines, this was a small indentation into the credit. 


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I give a lot of praise to American Airlines, and rightly so in most cases. However, this flight was nothing short of some of the worst wide-body offerings I have ever experienced in my lifetime of flying. Most of the crew were rude; the cabin was falling apart, the seats were disgusting, and 0 amenities. We'll get into the meals aspect later… I am happy I got to try the 777-200 out on such a short route because if it had been longer, I would have been overly disappointed.


Routing



How I Booked


Fares between New York and Southern California tend to be relatively expensive in premium cabins. American Airlines starts at 879$ one-way in Business on the direct to Los Angeles, while other airlines can fluctuate. However, seeing as I didn't have much to do on a Saturday and wanted to fly the older cabins of the 777, I decided to book a flight from New York-Phoenix-John Wayne, all for 667$ in Domestic First.


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I wouldn't have done this unless the longer leg was operated by the 777 (which isn't the case anymore). I'd say this was a decent bang for my buck.


Check-In


It was an early morning departure out of New York, meaning that Terminal 8 was busy as per usual. Thanks to priority check-in, my bags were dropped off within a matter of minutes, and I was on my way to security.


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Obviously, no lounge access on this routing sadly. 


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Boarding


Seeing as I had about an hour and a half before boarding, with no lounge access, I decided to stroll around Terminal 8. I found this beautiful 777-300 that had just come in from New Delhi; now that is a long flight. 


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Eventually, at 8:20 am local time, our time came to board from Gate 16. Talk about one heck of a group 1 line, huh? This was ridiculous. It actually wasn't that bad; that was for the CX 350 heading to HK from the next gate over. 😅


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The Seat/Cabin


Upon entering the cabin, I was somewhat happy to be in the older configuration of the 777-200. Just over half of the American Airlines fleet is fitted with B/E seats, which you can find a review of here. I was seated in the mini cabin behind door 2L/2R in 7L for this daytime flight.

The one advantage of this seat over the B/E seat is that on the B/E seat, the tray table is above your legs, so it gets a little packed. However, considering this product is flown on long-haul flights to Sao Paulo/London, it’s not the best. Here is a mini tour of the seat…


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Remotes, and seat controls 


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To add on, my seat was absolutely filthy underneath to the point where it smelt so bad that I told the FA, and I really tend never to complain about anything on a plane, maybe once every 50 flights.

7L is private on this aircraft, and I would certainly recommend the seat. The only aspect that confused me was how the seat didn’t fully convert to align with the footwell, there was sort of a gap hmmm…


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I mean, filthy


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Amenities/IFE


Okay, American Airlines, what an appalling offering for a flight of over 5 hours on a widebody. I know, I know, I was already expecting no amenities or such, but wired earbuds for a flight of this length, heck, even Delta does it better (I am not a fan of DL).

However, if you enjoy dollar earbuds, the IFE system is quite good on AA. Although, not quite as good as United, in my humble opinion. As always, Wi-Fi was exorbitant, as usual, on the 777 fleet.


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Departure


With our inbound aircraft from Sao Paulo arriving late and a tight connection in Phoenix, I was worried we might be a tad late on departure. Needless to say, we ended up pushing back 5 minutes early at 8:55 am EST.

Water and Orange Juice were offered as PDB, although once again, no sparkling wine. Hmmm, I am starting to see a trend here in US aviation. 


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We rolled off to the runway


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It was a long taxi out to 4L for our departure this morning, but we ended up being wheels up at 9:20 am. Talk about some pristine views out of New York and low cloud coverage. The 777-200 wing is simply gorgeous. 


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An interesting thing I noticed is how this one overhead bin kept opening on takeoff and landing. Yeah, this plane was old, in fact it’s older than me😅.


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Talk about some views ehh


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Meal Service


Once airborne, the cabin crew came around to take our orders for this morning. It was simply “I have eggs left,” nothing else. The choices were either a cheese plate or eggs. Seeing as the cheese plate was gone, and I didn’t eat eggs, I was in a kerfuffle. Apparently, AA loads very few cheese plates (same with UA, who loaded 12 for a 48 pax Polaris cabin SYD-LAX).

Hot towels were distributed…

So, I enquired if I could have some trustworthy biscoff cookies from the economy. The cabin crew went off to check and later came back with some sourdough crackers, 2 packs of Biscoff cookies, and an AHA. Decided

I still felt a bit peckish later on during the flight, so I asked if they had any cinnamon rolls left from the breakfast service. A different FA (who was actually quite kind) checked and brought me back 2, which were delicious! 


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Rest Of The Flight


The rest of the flight consisted of wrapping up in my hoodie since there were no blankets offered (BOO). Other than that, I edited some photos from the trip to Egypt and the Pyramids, as well as Vietnam.

I did check out the bathrooms and have to say, they were the best maintained part of the plane 😂. Gotta love the large bathroom on the 777s compared to a max per se (which they fly on this route now). 





Service


Sometimes, I write about a separate aspect of service, and other times, I don’t. In the past, I had been treated to some sublime crew on American Airlines, but this was the one that gave me the feeling they didn’t want to be onboard. Here are some aspects that stood out to me.

No welcome onboard

No hello when taking meal orders, just “I have this…”

No goodbye and thank you when leaving

Did not offer to hang up my blazer. It’s a silly thing, I know, but oftentimes, I see that the great crews come around and say, “Can I hang that up for you, sir?”.

Once the meal service was done, the crew completely disappeared, even from the galley at door 2 unless flagging them down

However, the one crew member that got me the Cinnamon rolls, thank you! I would also like to add that my standards are quite high with AA since, in the past, they have been amazing, so perhaps I am judging harshly. 


Arrival


Well, we had some unbelievable tailwinds or something because the captain came on the announcer at 11:50 am local time to let us know we had begun our descent into the Phoenix area. Our scheduled arrival time in Phoenix was 12:50pm local time, but it seems we had made a fantastic time.

The views out over Arizona were gorgeous. 





As fate would have it, we touched down 45 minutes early at Phoenix Sky Harbour Airport! Wow! In the end, we pulled into gate B25, 40 minutes ahead of schedule. To add on, right next to a special Westjet livery!

The flight may not have been perfect, but landing 40 minutes early isn’t bad at all. That’s the earliest I have ever arrived for a domestic flight in my life. 


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Once again…


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Then it was off to wait around for a few hours before heading over to SNA. 


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Product ratings

Airline

American Airlines 5.6

  • Cabin6.5 / 10
  • Cabin crew5.5 / 10
  • Entertainment/wifi6.0 / 10
  • Meal/catering4.5 / 10
Departure airport

New York - JFK7.4

  • Efficiency8.0 / 10
  • Access7.5 / 10
  • Services7.0 / 10
  • Cleanliness7.0 / 10
Arrival Airport

Phoenix - PHX7.6

  • Efficiency7.5 / 10
  • Access8.5 / 10
  • Services7.0 / 10
  • Cleanliness7.5 / 10

Conclusion

This was a pretty poor offering by American Airlines on a transcon (kind of) 777-200 service. While I knew the lack of amenities would be there before I got on board, it was still disappointing, especially when UA now offers MAX 9s with Bluetooth (on quite a few routes), and Delta offers headphones in DF. The crew wasn’t the best I’ve experienced, but I was grateful for that one good crew member. The seats were absolutely filthy and reminded me that flying isn’t all glamorous.

On the good notes, um… I guess the bathrooms were spacious! Of course, I was grateful to have a lie-flat seat on a widebody, especially when it wasn’t on the likes of a JFK/LAX/SFO/MIA route. With AA cutting LHR from Phoenix, I am curious if we will see the 772 come back at all to PHX since if JFK nor LHR are served with a 772, there doesn’t seem to be another profitable market.

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Comments (2)

  • Nice to see PHX getting some widebody love, as it's probably the most domestic-focused hub in the system (aside from DCA, of course, which can't really do INTL, or widebodies).

    Most of the crew were rude; the cabin was falling apart, the seats were disgusting, and 0 amenities.

    Hah, so you FINALLY had a not-so-great experience on AA. You've been pretty lucky with some over-the-top outstanding crews on most other flights, so it was bound to happen I guess.

    Obviously, no lounge access on this routing sadly.

    Hate that about US carriers...glad to have BA status now to get around this silliness

    To add on, my seat was absolutely filthy underneath to the point where it smelt so bad that I told the FA

    Eew, luckily I haven't had any experiences like that on AA. The cabins have always been spotlessly clean, But then again, I rarely fly them on domestic routes anymore, so this filthiness may not be uncommon. I finally have some AA domestic legs in Domestic F coming up in a few days. We'll see how that goes...I don't have high expectations.

    but wired earbuds for a flight of this length, heck, even Delta does it better (I am not a fan of DL).

    Very tacky, but not surprising. Heck, you're lucky they even handed them out...I haven't gotten any on the last few AA widebody domestic flights I can remember. They didn't even give out noise-cancelling headphones on 6h+ Intl flights to Lima, years ago, which I found surprising.

    Talk about some views ehh

    The good thing about these old cabins is the backwards-facing window seats for that awesome wing view! I don't really mind these old B/E Concept D cabins, and for the most part AA have kept them looking fresh (except on this flight apparently). The only thing I don't like about these seats is that you can feel the seat shake whenever your seat neighbour moves.

    Seeing as the cheese plate was gone, and I didn’t eat eggs, I was in a kerfuffle.

    Happens all the time, but it's really disappointing to run out of options when there's only 2 choices. I always pre-order to make sure I get my choice of meals. You also have the option of pre-ordering a special meal without eggs as there's a hugh chance of eggs on breakfast fights (Lacto-Ovo special meal).

    Did not offer to hang up my blazer. It’s a silly thing, I know

    Honestly, I think they stopped doing this altogether on domestic flights. It used to be automatic up until Covid. Heck, they used to put hangers right on the seat (along with a pillow and blanket)....All Gone! Ever since 2020 I've never had cabin crew come around to hand up coats on any domestic flight. I guess they must've changed service protocols.

    Overall a meh flight, but on a 777 so that helps.

    Thanks for sharing!

    • Hi Kevin, thanks for your comments!

      so you FINALLY had a not-so-great experience on AA. You've been pretty lucky with some over-the-top outstanding crews on most other flights, so it was bound to happen I guess.

      Yeah I was super lucky, and I guess everything has to balance out in one way or another.

      I finally have some AA domestic legs in Domestic F coming up in a few days.

      Ehh good luck with that!! Looking forward to those reports in the future!

      They didn't even give out noise-cancelling headphones on 6h+ Intl flights to Lima, years ago, which I found surprising.

      That's such a big shame, now that route is operated by those annoying A321neo ugh. Speaking of, I really miss those 757s and 767s that used to serve South America and the routes😅 like Bolivia and the 767 that used operate Montevideo as well. They had so many option with those aircraft and retired them early, now they are short on long-haul aircraft with delays and in this vicious cycle grrr.

      The good thing about these old cabins is the backwards-facing window seats for that awesome wing view!

      You're a BA flyer, so it probably helps that the old BA CW was backward facing window seats. Something is so peaceful about facing backwards, perhaps it's nostalgia or those wing views. Yeah, the rocking has become a problem according to some, but thankfully the person in 8L just slept most of the way ha.

      Honestly, I think they stopped doing this altogether on domestic flights. It used to be automatic up until Covid.

      I hadn't put two and two together, but actually you bringing this up has made me realize that you are right for AA, minus the premium transcon routes. It's such a small gesture that goes a long way. If UA can do it (a few flights this year they have done it), I am sure AA can do it!

      (along with a pillow and blanket)

      hahha a silent attack on AA🥴, although, I hear some routes have brought this back 👀

      Thanks for stopping by, and have a great day!

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