Review of Delta Air Lines flight New York Frankfurt in Business

Airline Delta Air Lines
Flight DL106
Class Business
Seat 9A
Flight time 08:25
Take-off 12 Jun 13, 19:55
Arrival at 13 Jun 13, 10:20
DL   #32 out of 68 Airlines A minimum of 10 flight-reports within the past two years is required to appear in the rankings. 705 reviews
By GOLD 10892
Published on 9th August 2014
Hi Everyone,

Welcome to the next installment in this series. The point of this trip to Europe was to go to a big meet-up which coincided with the Le Bourget Paris Air show. I also took the opportunity to go see my parents in the Southwest of France. I worked out a somewhat complicated routing to stretch out the miles, and basically because I'm an AvGeek and the more flights the better, when you are not time constrained, that is.

Normally, when I go to my hometown in France, I do IAD-CDG-TLS and then drive 2 hours to Rodez, but that was getting a little boring. The ORY-RDZ flights will take me directly to my hometown; this was also the first time that this route had been reported on the site.

Here is the full routing.

Washington DCA-New York JFK, Delta Air Lines, First, CRJ-900
New York JFK - Frankfurt FRA, Delta Air Lines, Business, B767-300ER [YOU ARE HERE]
Frankfurt FRA - Paris CDG, Air France, Economy, A318
Paris ORY - Rodez RDZ, HOP!, Economy, ATR72-500
Rodez RDZ - Paris ORY, HOP!, Economy, ATR72-500
Paris CDG - Frankfurt FRA, Air France, Economy, A318
Frankfurt FRA- Detroit DTW, Delta Air Lines, Business, B767-400
Detroit DTW - Washington DCA, Delta Air Lines, First, MD-88

At the end of the last report, I had left off at the JFK T2 Delta Sky Club.

When I booked the ticket I was able to get a window solo seat in an odd numbered row. In my opinion, these are the best seats when you are travelling alone because the seat is against the window and you have a large table/armrest between you and the aisle which gives the impression of more privacy. The even numbered rows are on the aisle side.

photo 6h80

When I printed my boarding pass at the Sky Club, the check-in screen informed me that my flight was oversold (not surprising considering the Air Traffic Controllers strike in Europe). The kiosk asked if I would be willing to volunteer to be rerouted to my destination and asked me to bid on how much I would take in Delta Dollars to be rerouted. At first I typed in $1000 just to see, but the screen told me the maximum was $600. Ok, so I typed $600, we'll see what happens–I guess they'll let me know at the gate if they need me or not. Of course, I'll need to know what the option are first.

After a few hours in the pleasantly, and strangely, empty T2 club, I headed over to the new terminal 4, which at the time had just opened a few weeks earlier.

photo 80xh

The check-in area with a dedicated separate Sky Priority zone, much like in LHR, to the right.

photo s21c

To access the Sky Priority lane at security, you have to scan your boarding pass. Since it's relatively early before the evening rush of European departures, there is noone in line and I am through in a few minutes.

View of the tarmac once airside just after security.

photo x1gw

This is the last time I even saw the old T3, former Pan Am World Port. It had just been closed a few weeks prior when T4 opened and was sadly torn down shortly after. It's a shame that they did not try to conserve it as they did with the TWA Flight Center, although I understand that neither DL nor the PANYNJ have the means to preserve a building that would essentially serve no purpose. Nevertheless, it was an iconic building and I was saddened that it was demolished.

photo 0jgf

An El Al B744 seen on the way to the Sky Club.

photo 0skn

The new T4 is not particularly impressive. It's just a very very loooong concourse and the low ceilings kind of remind me of ATL. Don't get me wrong, it's certainly way nicer that the old T3, which was in a very sad state of disrepair. It was time DL had better facilities for it's NYC hub.

photo 4f5o

The Sky Club is way down at the end of the concourse. This was the first time I was going to see the Sky Deck; I was really excited!

photo f6vu

The lounge is located upstairs.

photo yxxpphoto i5uq

The bar and the restaurant section, which offers offers a menu of paid-options.

photo ol39

Relaxation area.

photo ylc2photo kuyvphoto n2hc

A work area. There are no PCs available to use, just an empty space for your laptop.

photo 2b3u

The corporate shot.

photo ktd6photo b9g

And finally, here is the Sky Deck! It's a thing of beauty for an AvGeek! Sipping on a glass of wine while planespotting…it doesn't get better than that! Plus, I really like the design of the deck.

The only slightly negative point is that it was a pretty hot sunny day and the Sky Deck did not offer much shade. At least I had my glass of white wine or Gin & Tonic to keep me cool :-)

When I came back later in the evening, however, there was much more share.

Planespotting time!

The tip of the Singapore Airlines A380

photo 5cifphoto ard3

A beautiful Swiss A333

Oh my, that's long ;-)

photo 6jq9

A Turkish A333 leaving for Istanbul

photo 724h

The famous Club World London City A318.

photo q967

After this little planespotting session I'm starting to get hungry. Knowing that if you want to eat anything decent in the club you have to pay I headed over to the Oasis Lounge (now called the Wingtips lounge) which I had discovered a few months before on a JFK-LHR trip that you can read HERE

I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to get in since there was now a DL Sky Club in T4. Prior to the opening of the DL Concourse in T4, DL international premium cabin passengers could access this lounge as DL was running a few flights out of T4. When I got to the lounge the lounge attendant let me in with no problem. Great! This lounge has a pretty decent food offering, so I was glad about that.

Luckily, I guess not too many DL pax knew they could get in to the Oasis lounge because it was pretty empty.

I found the same little quiet corner as my last visit with a great view of the tarmac. It really is pleasant being in an empty lounge.

photo ypakphoto qg95

For my first snack, I grabbed a Turkey club wrap and a roast beef croissant sandwich accompanied by a Pinot Grigio and a Perrier to re-hydrate :-)

photo r21q

Makes you feel like a VIP to have a whole section to yourself :-)

photo n8lf

For my KLM-fanatic friend and fellow Flight-Report member KL651. I bet you like that huh?

photo 4f86

Oooh, there's more!

photo ei2o

It's pretty obvious that KLM uses the Oasis Lounge.

I pass the time planespotting and reading Flight-Reports, like this nice report by Hcl75.

photo ziyi

An Alitalia A330 landing

photo 2wjk

The Korean A380 leaving for Seoul-Incheon

photo y22m

I really love the diversity of traffic at JFK…you just never get bored watching the ballet of arrivals and departures.

photo ev3x

A Jumbo Smurf :-)

photo vcz3

Jumbo Widget

An LCC Frenchie A333

photo 9ch9photo b4fw

DL 763ER in Habitat for Humanity special livery.

photo eegc

AF006 landing from Paris late as usual.

photo x86x

And then it's a parade of A380s with an Emirates superjumbo arriving right after Air France.

photo y4oi

Soooo close!

The hot dinner options are available at the self-serve buffet at 5PM. I chose a seafood curry with basmati rice. There was also a French Onion soup, but that didn't seem appealing to me on a hot summer day.

photo 5ucp

After a shower in the lounge I decided to head over to my gate since boarding time was approaching. I wanted to check in with the gate agents to see if they'd need me to give up my see and see what the rerouting options were.

photo 1lsh

Once I got to the gate, the agent told me that the flight was now overbooked by 20 and that it had already checked in oversold. She said that a lot of pax were being rebooked on the FRA flight because of the cancellations to Paris due to the French Air Traffic Controller strike as I had suspected. At first she offers to put me in a hotel if I would be willing to fly out tomorrow evening. I wasn't thrilled about having to spend the night in New York for a $600 voucher. She then saw that there was no availability on either the JFK-FRA or JFK-CDG flights the next day…ummm, yeah, that's not gonna work then.

photo ol7t

The agent was very good and tried to find different routing combinations that would get me to my destination, but it seemed availability on ALL DL TATL flights was zeroed out for tonight or the next day. I proposed several options to her on other airlines: AF to CDG, KL via AMS, UX via MAD, or AZ via FCO to stay on SkyTeam, then I proposed OpenSkies to Paris-Orly or SQ to FRA (which I really pushed for obvious reasons), but unfortunately the agent told me that they could nto reroute passengers on other airlines in Business class even though there was availability. She said if I was rerouted, I'd have to fly in economy. Really???? You're trying to get me to give up my seat but you have no options for me except fly in Economy on another airline…not really making me want to help you out here. What a terrible policy! Here I am trying to help out and the best options I am given is fly in 48 hours on DL in Business or on another airline in coach. I really did want to help since I've worked for airlines in the past and knew how chaotic oversales could be. The agent told me if I would be willing to go in 2 days on DL that she would offer me two $600 vouchers for a total of $1200. I just replied that if they were desperate enough to get my seat, they would find a way to reroute me in the same cabin that I have bought.

I decided to head back to the Sky Club next door until boarding. The agent said she would call me in the club if she could work something out.

Back to the Sky Deck for more planespotting I go! :-)

A beautiful ANA 77W

With no news about the oversale, I headed back to the gate to touch base with the agent right before boarding. When I got there I didn't see her and was told by another agent that she had to leave to work another flight but that she had left my information with them.

By this point, it was a total madhouse in the gate area. There were a good 30-40 passengers without seat assignments who looked like they were about to start a riot! I felt really bad for the gate agents who were trying their best to handle the situation and asked if they had come up with any better options for me so that they could take my seat. The new agent tells me they were not able to get authorization to do Business class on another airline, but that the $1200 offer to go in 48h still stood. I was disappointed and replied that she could go ahead and take me off the volunteer list as that option was just not reasonable. I apologized and said I really wanted to help out, but to ask someone to stay an extra 2 days is just a ridiculous option.

So I went ahead and boarded, leaving the chaos of the gate area behind.

My plane this evening.

photo 7zliphoto ff2p

I was one of the last passengers to board in the BusinessElite cabin since I was stuck at the gate for so long.

photo zdvphoto 2wzc

I barely got to my seat when a lovely smiling flight attendant comes up with a tray of pre-departure beverages

Welcome aboard sir. Would you like a drink?

Oh God yes! I say laughing and making her laugh,Champagne please!

Here I'll give you the fullest one! I bet it's a zoo up there!

It sure is!! I said, it sure is.

Aaaahh…tranquility in a glass, LOL

photo 7l2i

The nice TUMI amenity kit.

photo 18tx

The contents of the pouch. There are definitely more goodies than in the AF Business class kits.

photo 8l1a

The seat pitch

photo qjlk

Ads during boarding as always.

photo kn

My seat.

photo x6rc

Menus are distributed during boarding.

Despite the chaos at the gate, boarding was finished on time; however, the captain made an announcement to inform us that we were going to be delayed due to the removal of bags of passengers who will not be flying tonight (i.e. the unlucky folks who got denied boarding).

photo njxv

We push back a half hour late.

photo zae2photo jlvd

Deltalina reminds us that there is no smoking on any Delta flight.
It's a shame she's no longer featured in the new safety videos.

As usual at JFK in the evenings, the taxi time is long…about 45 minutes.

Takeoff with beautiful twilight.

Just after takeoff the First Officer makes an announcement to tell us that despite the delayed departure, we would be arriving on time to FRA.

Looks like the IFE has a little time zone bug…

photo d6sbphoto uhdqphoto 05xi

Champagne before dinner with warm nuts.

photo ozg7

The meal is served as we fly over Nova Scotia.

photo 86li

The shrimp appetizer, soup, and salad. Everything was really good, especially the soup, which is always good in DL Business. I had another glass on champagne with the appetizer.

photo zxu5

The main dish, although nothing fancy, was rather good. The beef was tender though a little overcooked to my taste. I pair the beef with a decent Bordeaux. Throughout the meal, my awesome FA checked on me regularly to fill my wine. She spoke French to me…no idea how she found out I was French since I have an American accent, but it was a great touch! Maybe she saw my passport when I boarded.

photo oehb

Cheese course and crême brûlée cheesecake dessert. I finished my Bordeaux with the cheese and paired the dessert with a Sauternes. The cheesecake was delicious.

photo zss9

And finally, a little Cognac digestif.

photo j7fd

After the meal, FAs distributed wated bottles for the night. I slept like a baby for a good 4-5 hours and woke up as we were close to London.

photo k6w7photo s5e4

When my FA arrived with breakfast, I noticed that it was cereal…ugh, DL and its love affair with cereal in premium cabins; I'll never understand it. I told her that I would have preferred the quiche that I had seen on the menu. She apologized for the mix-up; however, the caterers had forgotten to load the quiches. I was a bit disappointed, but after such a big dinner, I wasn't that hungry.

Somewhere over the German countryside.

photo 7cegphoto d8sk

The Rhine?

photo 5xsbphoto cmnz

The cabin starts to wake up.

imagephoto 2r5ophoto fgcz

We did a little turn around Frankfurt and landed from the East.

photo 9iewphoto 2uqw

A DL 764 leaving for DTW.

photo xrlrphoto mp8h

Lots of Star Alliance airlines...not surprising considering FRA is an LH hub.

photo ynz6photo jo79photo ivj3

Despite the delay on departure, we got to the gate about 20 minutes early!

Willkommen in Frankfurt!

photo aoqt"/>"/>
See more


Delta Air Lines

Cabin crew10.0

Delta Air Lines Sky Club - 4


New York - JFK


Frankfurt - FRA



Comfort: I really like this seat, especially for the feeling of privacy without having walls around you which can feel claustrophobic. The only downside is that the seat is a bit narrow in sleep mode.

Crew: Amazing crew as is often the case with DL. My FA was very friendly and attentive. The factthat she spoke French to me was a great additional personal touch that I greatly appreciated. She also spoke fluent German!

Catering: Very good dinner. Everything was tasty and the portions were generous. A few points off for the quiche incident.

The flight may have left late because of the oversale, but an early arrival always gets a perfect grade!

Information on the route New York (JFK) Frankfurt (FRA)


If you liked this review or if you have any questions, don’t hesitate to post a comment below !
  • Comment 114918 by
    jetsetpanda 2294 Comments

    Thanks for sharing this phenomenal report with great pics as usual.

    Too bad that they couldn't accommodate you on another carrier, but I cannot blame them for trying to keep you on DL. Still, with the signs displaying DL prominently along with AF and KL at the counters, you would think that they would have more leeway with its sister carriers.

    Looking forward to your other reports.

  • Comment 114925 by
    TomyFR 151 Comments

    hi, good fr !
    this is not a 772 alitalia but is it an A330 ;)

  • Comment 114926 by
    Arboldepiedra 162 Comments

    Thanks for this report. The pictures are awesome !
    I really think that the Alitalia B772, is an A330 in fact...
    Anyway, it is a good job !

  • Comment 122170 by
    Chibcha SILVER 460 Comments

    Great report!
    The Delta Skyclub is awesome with that terrace, I loved the Fly Delta picture inside. I agree that JFK is paradise for diversity, unlike most of other airports where there's a dominant carrier and that's it (e.g. ATL), it becomes boring. It's a shame DL couldn't deliver an appropriate rerouting option, as you said, they're willing to throw 1200 bucks, why wouldn't they send you on another carrier (btw not even skyteam?). I'm sad to see Deltalina go, but some of her partners in the new videos are hot too, not as hot though. Although I didn't ride in Biz, when I rode on the 76W I got the impression that the BIz cabin was a bit cramped, specially towards the front.

    Sorry for not commenting before, work has been hard, now I'll catch up on reports!

    • Comment 304926 by
      KévinDC TEAM GOLD AUTHOR 5655 Comments

      Hey! Thanks for your comment. Yeah, the Sky Deck is awesome. You're right about planespotting being boring at hub airports. When I was at the ATL Sky Deck recently, it was just DL DL DL and more DL, LOL. The report is only in French now, I'll try to translate soon. Yeah, they should've been more flexible with rebooking. I could have saved them the pain of having to involuntary deny boarding to a pax which is always a mess. You're right that Biz looks cramped visually, but it's really not. Especially when you have the solo seats by the windows. Glad to see you back on FR. Hope you have some new reports up your sleeve :-)

  • Comment 158608 by
    Jett Tyler SILVER 222 Comments

    Great review of Delta Airlines!!

Login to post a comment.