Review of American Airlines flight San Francisco Chicago in Domestic First

Airline American Airlines
Flight AA 1435
Seat 3A
Aircraft Boeing 737-800
Flight time 03:45
Take-off 30 Aug 14, 10:10
Arrival at 30 Aug 14, 15:55
AA   #70 out of 94 Airlines A minimum of 10 flight-reports within the past two years is required to appear in the rankings. 598 reviews
By 4568
Published on 31st August 2014
AA SFO-ORD in F - you are here

Actual dept. time - 1047 Actual Arrival 1614

Hi and welcome to this TR that marks the end of a chapter for me. After some soul searching and careful consideration, I have decided to leave AA's Advantage program and embark on BA's Executive Club. This was a difficult decision for me because I have been a loyal AA member for many years and AA has a special place in my heart. Back in 1990 when I graduated from university, AA gave me my real first job and I worked with them at MIA for 2 years before moving to SFO. During that time in the early 90's, AA began to experience significant growth at MIA when it inherited the Latin American routes that once belonged to Eastern. I was there during their growing pains and will always remember that stage of my early airline career. Lastly I have to say that I am grateful to lagentsecret for his persuasive skills and making me see the light. ;)

I booked my ORD trip months in advance and back then I did not anticipate to leave AA. This was going to be just one more mileage run that will qualify me for elite status the following year. Then as time progressed after the merger with US, I notice subtle things that bothered me. For example, when I was looking to redeem some miles in F from NY to SFO in late November, the only availability was on US via CLT or PHL. Nothing in F or J on true AA nonstop flights. Then some relatives tried to do an upgrade with miles + cash from SFO-SJO 4 months in advance and that never cleared. Their trip was in late August which is not even high season. Recently, I found out that the afternoon flight that I usually take from SFO-MIA was changed from a 763 to a 738. This is a flight that is always packed with South Americans connecting to their late night flights out of MIA. Why on earth is AA switching it to a smaller plane?. By the way, I have seen most of these pax sit in the front and Y+ cabins, so the demand is there. Doug Parker said that he will keep AA a premium carrier after the merger with US, but there have been shortcuts and cutbacks in catering as reported by frequent flyers in other forums and getting into the front cabins with other means (except paying) is getting harder. This is going to be the last AA trip that will be credited to my AA's Advantage account. I had some upgrades that I wanted to use for this trip and this was the best opportunity to do so. To my surprise, I was upgraded on all segments.

I joined BA's program in Sept. so starting now I will have a clean start to accumulate Tier points. Like all other frequent flyers that are into this game, I consider the F cabin of a world class carrier the ultimate reward and the holy grail of being a FF. BA's open availability on carriers like CX and JL makes it a very attractive alternative, despite the high surcharges for rewards. I personally believe that due to AA's vast numbers of FF's, airlines restrict their premium inventory to them considerably. Another symbolic coincidence happened when I took my return trip from ORD to SFO on Aug. 31. This was the last day of AA catering and the following day on Sept. 1, the new catering implementation with US took effect.

My flight was not supposed to leave until 1415, so on my departure day I decided to go to the airport early to standby for an earlier flight. Originally I was planning to ask for the SFO-DFW @ 1030 which was operated by a 763 and then DFW-ORD on a S80. As a Gold member I stood in the priority line and was waived in by the agent working the F counter. The agent was a pleasant older gentleman who greeted me with a smile and when I inquired if I could standby via DFW, he advised me that I couldn't change the routing and could only standby for a nonstop to ORD. I was surprised by this because in the past I was allowed to standby through different hubs as long as the dept. and arriv. cities do not change. Not feeling argumentative, I decided to just clear security and try to do this at the gate inside. This might have been a blessing in disguise because later on, the DFW flight was delayed due to late arrival. Security was a pain in the butt and even thought we had a special line, we were told to merge with the line of regular passengers going through x-ray after the agent checked our documents.

Inside the terminal.

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I proceeded to the DFW gate and there was no agent there even though it was 1 hr. before dept. I waited another 10 min. and still no one showed up. Meanwhile, the ORD flight leaving @ 1010 was next door and I glimpse at the upgrade list and only saw 2 passengers on the list. Although not the most accurate way to check, I checked the seat map for this flight before leaving the airport and it had 5 empty seats in F. So I decided to approach the agent working the ORD flight and asked the nice lady if I could be placed on the standby list. She did this with a smile and told me to wait and see if the upgrade would clear. Soon they started boarding the plane and at about 25 min. before dept. I was called and an agent advised me that she only had F seats in the bulkhead. I gladly accepted and was given a window seat. I also noticed a sharply dressed guy that took the opposite window seat and later on was chatting with the FA's about work when I went to the WC. He was a non revenue and if he could make it, then this flight was pretty empty in F. In addition I saw two pilots in uniform occupying row 2, but they could have been deadheading and therefore had confirmed seats according to their contract.

Plane at the gate.

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My seat 3A (I wonder why there is no row 1 or 2)

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Seat pitch - could be more generous

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I looked outside and the plane for the DFW flight just arrived @ 1000. The plane leaves @ 1030, so I doubt that this flight will be on time considering the disembarking, cleaning and boarding. That flight was going to be delayed as well.

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Pre-departure drinks were offered and by 1010 the door was still open. Then a few minutes later the captain made an announcement saying that there was a minor repair that needed to be signed off by the mechanics and they were waiting for them. After a few more minutes the door was closed and we were taxiing for take off.

Taxiing to the runway


OAK and the East Bay

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Upon reaching cruising altitude our purser went into action taking meal and drink orders. She was smiling and very attentive throughout the whole flight. After the hot towel service, I had the usual 1/2 orange juice and 1/2 cranberry mix accompanied by warm nuts. I noticed that the cashews are broken in half pieces. Another cost cutting measure?

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Drink with nuts

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For lunch we had a choice between Chicken Pot Pie Crepes OR Beef Salad. I chose the crepes and the presentation was not the best.

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Salad without a choice of dressing

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A basket with breads was passed around. The sourdough was crusty and delicious.

I unfolded the napkin and found only a fork and a knife.

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What happened to the plastic salt/pepper shakers?

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Finally we had a fresh baked cranberry oatmeal cookie for dessert. The FA saw that I did not eat it all and offered to bring me a chocolate chip one. I thanked her but declined.

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The rest of the flight was uneventful and I read a book during the whole time. Soon we were arriving in ORD.

Arriving into ORD

Taxiing to the arrival gate

The airport looked busy and after a long trek I arrived at the hotel shuttle area. I stayed at the Holiday Inn Express in Arlington Heights, which is very close to UA's former headquarters. This hotel is perhaps the only one in the area that offers shuttle service to the airport. Back when I was working for United in the late 1990's and had to fly to Chicago twice a month, I always asked the travel desk to book me at this hotel. It was clean, comfortable, had a free breakfast but best of all, it was in front of Yaohan Center and almost next door to a Greek restaurant. There was also an unassuming diner owned by a Greek guy that served great homemade American food. It's amazing how things have changed after an absence of 14 years. The two restaurants are now gone and Yaohan is called Mitsuwa.

Holiday Inn Express

Inside Mitsuwa there is a Kikokuniya bookstore, a food court with several stands and a Hippo bakery. I used to come to here to get my Air Stage magazine and buy discounted bento boxes at half price before closing. There is also a food court inside with different stands serving mainly Asian noodles and dishes. The line was insane when I arrived so I did not even bother. I just purchased some water and a chestnut pastry and then ordered take out from Burger Baron.

Hippo bakery with a few items left before closing

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My delivery dinner from Burger Baron - Grilled Grecian chicken with rice, Greek potatoes, soup and garlic bread, and gyro or shawarma. Of course I did not eat it all.

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Cabin crew9.0

San Francisco - SFO


Chicago - ORD



Comfort was fine but I don't think the bulkhead on this plane is that great and I'd rather have any other seat with storage in front.

Service was friendly and attentive. I appreciate the FA asking me if I wanted another kind of cookie after I nibble some and left the rest on the plate. Actually the cookies was great, but I try to avoid too much carbohydrates and sugar.

Catering was somewhat disappointing with a careless presentation. The half cashews, incomplete set of utensils and envelopes of salt/pepper scream cost cutting and they are not very premium at all. I think for a flight of this length, they should offer a dessert that is more than just a cookie. AA has this tendency to serve cookies for dessert on lunch flights, even before the merger with US.

Late dept. and arrival. It's a good thing that I was not connecting.

Information on the route San Francisco (SFO) Chicago (ORD)

Les contributeurs de Flight-Report ont posté 4 avis concernant 2 compagnies sur la ligne San Francisco (SFO) → Chicago (ORD).


La compagnie qui obtient la meilleure moyenne est American Airlines avec 7.2/10.

La durée moyenne des vols est de 3 heures et 40 minutes.

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  • Comment 117145 by
    Esteban GOLD 20243 Comments
    Thank you so much for sharing. Awesome SFO and OAK views!
    AA product is everything but impressive.
    • Comment 300916 by
      jetsetpanda AUTHOR 2283 Comments
      I guess I missed the new meals from the integration to compared how things stack up to the new catering. It is disappointing to see things like an incomplete set of utensils and a lack of proper containers for salt/pepper as seen on this FR, but there was more to come. On my DFW-SFO segment which had a full dinner, I was not given a choice between the usual cheese plate or ice cream. As a matter of fact, the FA did not even come up with a tray presenting these choices as it was done before. I was asked if I wanted ice cream when the FA took my tray away. The ice cream was just strawberry with shaved chocolate on top.

      Thanks for stopping.
  • Comment 117199 by
    lagentsecret 12184 Comments
    Thanks for sharing this FR

    I'm more than happy to help

    A bit of nostalgia ;)

    I consider the F cabin of a world class carrier the ultimate reward
    Of course you're not thinking of BA, lol !

    You were lucky to clear all the upgrades of your farewell tour

    The meal is not appealing at all : only the bread looks good

    Great aerials pictures

    Of course I did not eat it all.
    How do you spell liar ? ;)

    See you soon for your next leg

    • Comment 300918 by
      jetsetpanda AUTHOR 2283 Comments
      Thank you for your invaluable expertise and advice.

      As long as you don't mix melancholy with nostalgia. ;)

      Of course you're not thinking of BA
      Pas du tout, actually I was referring to S7 :P

      You were lucky to clear all the upgrades of your farewell tour
      A fitting way to make an exit.

      If you could only see the plastic container from which the bread was served. Quelle horreur!

      How do you spell liar? ;)
      L - as in lovable
      I - as in ingenious
      A - as in adorable
      R - as in resourceful


      A la prochaine!
  • Comment 117204 by
    indianocean SILVER 7574 Comments
    Good old lagensecret. Always here with the right and precious tips.

    BA and AA definitely have something in common: the holy crap hot towel.

    Thank you
  • Comment 117219 by
    KévinDC TEAM SILVER 6853 Comments
    What? You're leaving the dAArk side? :-P
    But won't get upgrades domestically with BA EC...what was the big motivator, besides less award space and 007's convincing. Plus, I've read that BA EC is trying to go to a revenue-based program, which is never good for mileage runners. I used to be BA Silver back when OpenSkies flew to DC and will say that the program is generous with awards.
    • Comment 300934 by
      jetsetpanda AUTHOR 2283 Comments
      Believe me, the dark side has never left me. ;)

      The constant deterioration (whether subtle or noticeable)of AA's product and the frustration of getting decent awards and upgrades are some of the reasons that drove me away. Nowadays, if you have the right credit card, you can basically get almost the same benefits as a low tier elite (free checked bag, priority boarding, etc.) I would rather put my efforts into a program that allows me to access premium inventory with relative ease. Besides, the redemption scheme of BA's EC is based on distance and not a flat amount of miles, which can work to my advantage.

      The additional members coming from US Dividend Miles will swell up the ranks and it will be harder to get upgrades. Besides, as a low tier elite, the success rate for upgrades has been pretty low. I thought to myself why not give it a try for at least one year and see how it turns out.
    • Comment 301011 by
      KévinDC TEAM SILVER 6853 Comments
      Ah, yes, I get it now--I was thinking more from a higher Elite tier point of view, but definitely for a lower Tier Elite with low upgrade percentage it would make sense.
    • Comment 301022 by
      jetsetpanda AUTHOR 2283 Comments
      I am just a member of the proletariat. ;)
  • Comment 117241 by
    SMilano 1284 Comments
    Thank's for sharing !

    This is a nostalgic TR ;)

    Beautiful SFO and OAK aerial views !

    AA meals is not really attractive. Do you know about the new ? Better ?

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